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[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago (14 children)

Nah, there's literally not enough nukes or even fissile material to make an Earth-shattering bomb. It takes a lot of energy to shatter something the size of Earth.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (11 children)

Not enough fissile material on earth. With enough asteroid and planetary mining, and .... ah never mind. You are probably still right. "Shattering" implies breaking apart and defeating earth's gravity well.

We'll have to get started on antimatter bombs for the required energy density, I guess.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Correct. Even with perfect conversion of mass to energy, it would still take converting the mass equivalent of a 16+ km asteroid directly into energy.

Even antimatter explosions are not anywhere near 100% efficient. They produce many subatomic particles with high energy. Much of the reaction will quickly (on the order of 1x10^-16 seconds (... ok ok pions take 1x10^-8 seconds to decay, which is much longer)) settle into neutrinos or electrons. About half of the energy would nigh-instantly convert to neutrinos. Neutrinos will not care or contribute to ripping Earth apart even if they're produced in the Earth's core.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What are your recomendations? Assuming Earth had to be shattered in a kaboom.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

A very large asteroid (>500km) would be a good attempt at 'shattering'. (much like how the moon formed, in theory) Otherwise, a "small" black hole or other cosmic-scale forces would do the trick. A near by blazar would easily sterilize the planet if it were aimed at us, but there are none such objects we have yet observed. (luckily)

The sun itself is easily capable of smearing Earth out, but the real question is "how?". Even a crazy CME aimed directly at Earth would barely be able to wipe out technology, let alone life. A close call with another solar system would definitely stand a solid chance of wiping out life as we know it, but it wouldn't necessarily be terribly quick.

It'd be very predictable in that we'd be able to see another solar system coming for decades/centuries/longer, and many changes would still be longer than a human lifespan (outside of the final 'kick' event, which could be over in a matter of weeks/months and leave the surface freezing and potentially devoid of much atmosphere).

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So we can consider our sun dying and Andromeda colliding with the milky way as crappy backstops.5 billion years for a maybe is not great. I don't know about you, but I don't have that kind of patience. We need fresh ideas. I like your singularity idea, but getting crushed isn't as artistically coherent as a quality shattering and if you've checked the price of singularities these days, its not really in the budget.

I think the most viable option I've heard so far is a mega asteroid. Do you know any suitable candidates for rent?

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago

Well there's always Ceres (~945km), Pallas (~512km), or Vesta(~525km), though they're more dwarf planet than asteroid, so that might be pretty pricy to aim at Earth.

There are several asteroids in the 200-500km range (5-10 if you're lucky), but not too many. It seems Earth shattering is a pretty premo business in this solar system!

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