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The verb run is only conjugated as "ran" in the simple past tense, as in:

  • I ran a mile.
  • He ran the company.

For literally every other conjugation of that verb, you should use "run."

It baffles me that ran has somehow overtaken the other, much more (historically) common, much more appropriate, conjugation of "run," which applies to most situations where you have a helper verb like to be or to have:

  • I did run a mile
  • He did run the company
  • I have run a mile
  • He has run the company
  • I would have run..
  • I might have run..
  • I will have run..

This applies to a lot of other verbs with similar vowel changes like sing/sang/sung, ring/rang/rung, etc. In general, if you're using an irregular/strong verb that has an "a" in it, it is only meant for simple past tense.

Now, all of this is really only appropriate for when you're meaning to sound professional nowadays, since simple past tense is overtaking all those other verb conjugations. But for now, it's still a good YSK.

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[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There are two views on this: language creates grammar after the fact, those are rules, we need to stick to these rules, and this be the hill I die on.

The other view is more liberal. Native speakers don't care about these rules and naturally deviate from some. Not all, not all at once, and not always to an extent that is recognized by the majority of speakers. But occasionally, certain uses make it. The use of the past tense in constructions that by the laws of grammar should require the past participle is a feature of Black American English. The popularity of hiphop and rap have spread this all over the world. With the now much derided term "woke" it has even reached other languages.

By heart I'm a narrow minded stickler for the rules myself. The nonsensical use of "literally" still makes me mad. But that horse is so far out of the barn you can barely see it on the horizon. Fighting the fight for clean past tense/past participle separation may be one against windmills.

English as a Germanic language comes from a protolanguage that probably only had irregular verbs in the vein of sing-sang-sung. Over time, and probably out of desperation by people who needed to learn it as a second language via migration and mingling, the verbs we now consider regular (team -ed) came about later. Language changes. English is living proof with its spelling making no sense at all and clear influences of Viking and Norman invasions and the spread around the world via the Empire. American English made spelling changes. Indian (Asia) English developed its own unique characteristics that may deviate from the King's version. There is such a thing as EU English where you can see what happens when mostly non-natives go to town in it.

Grammar came after the spoken version. It's like a constitution that can be changed by quiet, gradual consensus.

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 7 points 10 hours ago

Native speakers don't deviate from the rules. The rules are simply wrong when they don't describe how native speakers speak. Native speakers speak differently than their ancestors. That's normal. It's not deviant. The grammar pedants need to learn to be more flexible and describe the actual language - English as She is Spoke - 2026 edition.