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[–] misk@piefed.social 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Based on this information you should understand that it is critical to the food supply. Yields are kind of important.

Mike Judge was a prophet.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Based on this information you should understand that it is critical to the food supply. Yields are kind of important.

Based on this information, you should then understand that your original objection is incorrect, as what I objected to, and what you said, was

We can’t grow them fast enough to feed everyone without fertiliser.

Fertilizer increases yields, but we are in a system that struggles with overproduction and poor distribution, not underproduction. It is a issue regarding the long-term financial health of farming firms (ie including and especially smallholders who are at risk of being bought out by large landowners), just not the one being asserted.

[–] misk@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That’s all cool but have you wondered how would such a change get implemented overnight? You guys are all dreaming of solarpunk while the reality is much more immediate.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That’s all cool but have you wondered how would such a change get implemented overnight? You guys are all dreaming of solarpunk while the reality is much more immediate.

... what change did I propose to be implemented overnight? The core of my point is that reduced yields for a single year from expensive fertilizer is damaging to the financial health of firms, but not an actual famine-causing incident.

I reiterate, since you apparently didn't read closely:

Fertilizer increases yields, but we are in a system that struggles with overproduction and poor distribution, not underproduction.

[–] misk@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Food production and distribution system remains the same as it was, the ownership didn’t change, and so we will bear consequences of not having enough fertiliser that will be amplified by inefficient system. It doesn’t matter that it can be solved by more forward thinking because there are no functioning adults in power that would actually implement it.