Buy European
Overview:
The community to discuss buying European goods and services.
Rules:
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Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. No direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments.
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Do not use this community to promote Nationalism/Euronationalism. This community is for discussing European products/services and news related to that. For other topics the following might be of interest:
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Include a disclaimer at the bottom of the post if you're affiliated with the recommendation.
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No russian suggestions.
Feddit.uk's instance rules apply:
- No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia or xenophobia.
- No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies.
- No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users.
- Do not share intentionally false or misleading information.
- Do not spam or abuse network features.
- Alt accounts are permitted, but all accounts must list each other in their bios.
- No generative AI content.
Useful Websites
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General BuyEuropean product database: https://buy-european.net/ (relevant post with background info)
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Switching your tech to European TLDR: https://better-tech.eu/tldr/ (relevant post)
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Buy European meta website with useful links: https://gohug.eu/ (relevant post)
Benefits of Buying Local:
local investment, job creation, innovation, increased competition, more redundancy.
European Instances
Lemmy:
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Basque Country: https://lemmy.eus/
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๐ง๐ช Belgium: https://0d.gs/
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๐ง๐ฌ Bulgaria: https://feddit.bg/
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Catalonia: https://lemmy.cat/
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๐จ๐ฟCzech Republic https://lemmings.world/
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๐ฉ๐ฐ Denmark, including Greenland (for now): https://feddit.dk/
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๐ช๐บ Europe: https://europe.pub/
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๐ซ๐ท๐ง๐ช๐จ๐ญ France, Belgium, Switzerland: https://jlai.lu/
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๐ฉ๐ช๐ฆ๐น๐จ๐ญ๐ฑ๐ฎ Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Lichtenstein: https://feddit.org/
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๐ซ๐ฎ Finland: https://sopuli.xyz/ & https://suppo.fi/
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๐ฎ๐น Italy: https://feddit.it/
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๐ฑ๐น Lithuania: https://group.lt/
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๐ฑ๐บ Luxembourg https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/
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๐ณ๐ฑ Netherlands: https://feddit.nl/
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๐ต๐ฑ Poland: https://fedit.pl/ & https://szmer.info/
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๐ต๐น Portugal: https://lemmy.pt/
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๐ธ๐ฎ Slovenia: https://gregtech.eu/
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๐ธ๐ช Sweden: https://feddit.nu/
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๐น๐ท Turkey: https://lemmy.com.tr/
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๐ฌ๐ง UK: https://feddit.uk/
Friendica:
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๐ฆ๐น Austria: https://friendica.io/
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๐ฎ๐น Italy: https://poliverso.org/
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๐ฉ๐ช Germany: https://piratenpartei.social/ & https://anonsys.net/
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๐ซ๐ท Significant French speaking userbase: https://social.trom.tf/
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๐ต๐ฑ Poland: soc.citizen4.eu
Matrix:
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๐ฌ๐ง UK: matrix.org & glasgow.social
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๐ซ๐ท France: tendomium & imagisphe.re & hadoly.fr
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๐ฉ๐ช Germany: tchncs.de, catgirl.cloud, pub.solar, yatrix.org, digitalprivacy.diy, oblak.be, nope.chat, hot-chilli.im, synod.im & rollenspiel.chat
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๐ณ๐ฑ Netherlands: bark.lgbt
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๐ฆ๐น Austria: gemeinsam.jetzt & private.coffee
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๐ซ๐ฎ Finland: pikaviestin.fi & chat.blahaj.zone
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While I neither support Russia nor censorship in any way, I think that the local government of ANY country should have a higher say on what can be distributed and sold in a country than the internal decisions of a private company in a 3rd country.
For non-technical people the availability of an app in the official app stores limits the availability of a service. And whether or not a service is allowed, should be up to local legislature.
You're not wrong, but it's a strange thing to point out.
It's like mentioning every country has the right to pass its own laws under a Post about a country passing laws that discriminate against a minority.
Nobody is criticizing Russia for regulating the distribution of apps per se, but rather what and why they are banning/regulating them.
My interpretation of this article is that they criticize Apple for acting according to Russian laws when operating in Russia.
I also don't like Apple, but from my perspective, they either have to stop operating in Russia completely (which I'd prefer) or 'bow to the Kremlin'. Any other option involves Apple playing Sheriff and deciding themselves what is right or wrong. And I don't think that private corporations should have that power.
Ah, yeah ok, I can see how it could be interpreted that way, especially the headline.
I suppose to me it was so obvious it's up to the state to regulate companies and not the companies themselves, that pointing it out felt like endorsing the regulation itself.
But maybe that's just my European showing lol
I disagree. I should be able to install any app I want on my device without anyone acting as a gatekeeper and without having to use an app store.
Anyone who argues aginst this needs to look in the mirror and ask themselves what went wrong in their life
As said, I'm also not a fan of censorship, but a state by definition has the right to make its own legislation. Amazon is a US company. In the US it's fine to sell weapons to adults without any license. Still, they aren't allowed to sell weapons in Germany. Likewise Aldi can't sell beer to 16 year olds in the US just because it's legal in Germany. Because the state decides what's allowed. And in the digital age, that right also applies to digital goods and services.
If an apps poses a threat to people or something, the state should have the right to prohibit that very much as other things in the 'real' world. But Russia, China, and other autocracies ban apps to increase surveillance and foster their own dictatorial policies. China, for example, banned gay dating apps as far as I remember, along with tens of thousands other apps. Now Russia is banning Signal and other messengers. The regimes are trying to protect themselves and limit their own people's freedom.
The US does the same thing too, just in the past year.
The US government banned ICE gestapo surveillance apps and apps that would bring the community together and warn of incoming kidnappings, also a video aggregation app or something for documenting ICE crimes.
Don't get me wrong: I don't like a government banning gay dating apps or encrypted messengers. I'm just saying that it's the right of the state to ban certain apps. From an ethical point of view there can be good or bad intentions behind such a ban. You can do so to keep the free press out or to spy on your citizens, but you can also do so to protect your citizens.
E.g. Germany didn't allow Tesla to test rollout the US version of their 'self driving' software to protect people from accidents. Likewise, that new Amazon service to bundle the live feed of all their customers' surveillance cameras which they claim is to 'find lost dogs' (it was a superbowl commercial) isn't in line with German data protection laws and therefore hopefully never allowed here.