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[โ€“] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Sideloading is an old and well established term for it when it comes to phones though. Sideloading is installing stuff outside of app stores

[โ€“] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 32 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Before phones that was the only way to install apps though.

Maybe we should have a term for the inverse, like 'wallgardening', or 'bootlocking', or 'corputing', or 'inshilling'? ๐Ÿค”

[โ€“] Saapas@piefed.zip 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Before phones

But the discussion is specifically about phones..? I've never heard anyone use sideloading in a different context

[โ€“] grandma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Phones are just computers except they fit in your pocket and have a cellular connection. Distinction without a (meaningful) difference

[โ€“] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Phones are a specific type of computer. I wonder if some madlad hates the term "smart phone" so much that they're out there calling them computers and confusing everyone.

[โ€“] HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

~~smart phone literally means phone with computer or computer-like abilities, contrary to popular belief, smartphones existed before the iPhone and in fact didn't have to be a locked down slab of glass~~

[โ€“] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody is disputing what smart phones are lol, just that people do make the distinction and do use different terms

[โ€“] HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago

misread ur comment and worded mine badly, sorry

I really need more sleep

[โ€“] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's about phones because they changed established practice, but then why use a new word for what was established practice and not the 'new', phone-specific, practice of limiting app availability?

[โ€“] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 21 hours ago

Sideloading is a more specific term than just "installing", it's more about where you got the software, the process of installing it. So people started using a more specific term to distinguish it from other types of installing.

Why people choose to adopt one word or another, I dunno. We just started calling it sideloading and that's been the term for as long as I remember (though very early on I didn't read or write much in English)

[โ€“] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 points 16 hours ago

What about before app stores were a thing?

[โ€“] hesh@quokk.au 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The point is that today the term only serves to delegitimize what should be accepted practice (installing whatever software you want on the machine you paid for) by making it sound like some secondary/shady behavior. Thus allowing phone manufacturers to maintain their walled gardens and control over consumers.

[โ€“] Saapas@piefed.zip -2 points 22 hours ago

Tbf these days it is secondary behaviour. Most people aren't installing stuff outside of app stores on their phones.

It would just feel weird changing the words we use because companies started using the same terms too. We had it first!