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Hi, I'm not sure if any of you have read Murder in the Tool Library (a quite good solarpunk murder mystery, I think) but I'm working on a story with an investigation and I'm wondering how close AE Marling's answers are to being a drop-in solution for that particular concept, and sort of whether it passes basic scrutiny by anarchists.

If you haven't read it, the basic idea is that the setting's eutopian city doesn't have a police force but it does have a large and active civilian investigative society which normally investigates more mundane situations but can be temporarily empowered with access to additional information by the community on a case-by-case basis, such as when someone is murdered for seemingly no reason. They lacked any sort of qualified immunity and the community seemed to have an existing system based around rehabilitation and restitution that they answered to. It seemed to be very croudsourcing-oriented but members had to pass a fairly-strict qualification process to screen out those who would misuse their access.

They also seemed to have a much broader scope of what they normally investigated than the modern day police do (finding lost pets and such), as crimes seemed to be much more rare in the setting, given the other safety nets available to catch things earlier.

So I suppose most of my questions are around does this seem viable to you? When I asked some of these questions on the xmpp channel it was pointed out that an organization charged with investigating crimes outside its own members but at least nominally accountable to the community is police under another name, which is probably fair. So I guess my question boils down to: are there anarchist answers to how to do policing?

The anarchist manifestos I've tried seemed to be listing all the problems with modern police, which I agree with, and saying that if you solve all of society's other problems you won't need police, prisons etc. which, I don't really doubt that but it also doesn't feel attainable to me. Especially when one of my most frequently-reused comments over on the subreddit is explaining that yes you can still have conflicts (and thus story plots) in a better, more eutopian society. All kinds of crimes, shortcuts and disagreements can arise without desperate necessity and even between people who 95% agree with each other.

So is there a halfway-to-utopia answer?

Part of the trouble is that though my story centers around an investigation (a treasure hunt for thousands of tons of industrial waste illegally dumped decades earlier, and a modern day conspiracy to cover it up and block the investigation), I have a lot less room for deep dives into the organization itself. Marling was able to devote much of his story to exploring a lot of concepts and nuances around the abolishment of police and prisons, how they try to screen for people with sociopathic or abusive tendencies and how the investigative society still has some hierarchy which puts it at risk to people who prioritize ladder climbing and power, (long with the nuts and bolts of how things might be done when the worst case scenario happens and someone commits murder despite all the other social safety nets).

So thanks for reading my question, and for any thoughts you might have. I guess I'm wondering if this existing idea seems basically viable, and what specifics you'd want called out where I can fit them. If you think it doesn't work, I'd be very interested in any alternatives (and I'm happy to read relevant articles, screeds, manifestos etc!). Thanks

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[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I think even in an anarchist utopia, people might accidentally create a hierarchical / police like institution to deal with particular issues. But your example sounds more like current day private investigators / investigative journalists, who occasionally get tasked by their community to do police investigator things. I wouldnt really call that a police force.

I think the more relevant thing to me would be, what additional information are they able to access, why are those actually stored in the first place, who can normally access those etc. Because that might actually be the thing that would be the actual target of bad actors and those that want to have power over others.

Edit: Ah yeah for me it passes the vibe check for something that anti authoritarians might implement to deal with a serial killer or something, especially after they abolished the police.

[–] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago

Thanks!

your example sounds more like current day private investigators / investigative journalists, who occasionally get tasked by their community to do police investigator things

I actually think of them that way too.

As for information, in Marling's stories the settings are still quite high tech so more information is retained than might be ideal. I think it was stuff like GPS and similar movement records. The improvement over our present is that they don't just ask a corporation for the info because there are some apparently functional protections in place, and I think at one point they're temporary stymied when a community tells them to pound sand because the local council is concerned the investigative society has been overreaching lately. I don't have specifics in mind for the temporary powers/accesses as they won't really come up in this story but it might be equivalent to the stuff police forces just request/buy from companies today. The protagonist could just as easily be a private detective or reporter but I'll admit I do like the concept of these investigative societies and the changes they demonstrate in the setting.