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[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No thanks, this is the same stupid reasoning as "pedestrians should wear hi-vis vests when walking". It offloads responsibility from car drivers to be responsible, to bicyclists and pedestrians. A decent, separated bicycle infrastructure goes much further in terms of safety than "just wear helmet lmao".

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Helmets are important for environmental accidents, too, like hitting rocks and tree roots. Most of the accidents I've had in over three decades of daily cycling have been environmental; and my helmet has saved me from head trauma multiple times. This one's not about cars.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're riding on a bumpy path in the woods, helmets make a lot of sense.

But most roads do not have tree roots or rocks around.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Uneven sidewalks and bad bikers still exist.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Sounds like the roads need to be made safer then.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are comparing apples to oranges.

A high-visibility vest does not protect you at all. Its only purpose is to make drivers pay more attention to you instead of actually protecting you.

A helmet actually protects you. Also not just from some specific danger that shouldn't be there in the first place (cars) but from the results of every possible fall no matter what caused it.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Typically people don't fall by their own, unless if you're talking about the elderly (who are more brittle), or the very young (who drive on low tricycles to learn, and a fall then isn't as bad). A bicycle also typically is much less fast than a car, so when you fall, the damage is also much less bad.

By far most bicycle accidents are caused by other drivers (especially car drivers) not watching out or driving recklessly near them. Or because bicycling paths aren't cleared/salted in winter.

If you wanted to tackle accidents better, you'd prohibit smartphone usage while in traffic altogether for everyone (navigation excepted), and support separated, well-maintained bicycle lanes with protection rails.

There's a huge difference between falling and falling because a car drove you over. Don't blame the bicyclist overmuch. Blame the carcentric infrastructure instead.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

What reason could you have not to wear a helmet that would outweigh simple safety in the event random disaster strikes?

Similar to how we wear seatbelts, you don't drive expecting to crash, and in a perfect world you wouldn't need it. Accidents happen though, that's why the word exists.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A bicycle also typically is much less fast than a car, so when you fall, the damage is also much less bad.

As someone who have seen someone fall at walking speed without any outside influence and end with a basal skull fracture, I call bullshit.

There’s a huge difference between falling and falling because a car drove you over.

Yes, there is. I am however not advocating for wearing heavy proctive gear that would make a difference in such a case, but for helmets. And hitting your unprotected head can simply heavily injure or even kill you -no matter the circumstances or speed- just by hitting an edge, a curb, a random pebble or just aspllated ground at a bad angle.

If basic anatomy would allow for humans to fall over and hit their heads while standing or walking around normally, we would already be wearing helmets all the time, just like we are causally protecting our feet with shoes.