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[–] Paragone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

The story was adulterated, & that is visible in the text of that part of the bible, there was no apple.

"women ate of the fruit of the knowledge of Good & Evil ( MORAL UNDERSTANDING ), & shared that with men".

Yes, mothering enforces more moral-understanding than does male-ego-persuits, traditional or modern.

As women have noticed, & evidence absolutely does back it, women bring life into the world, & men persue killing, consistently more than women do.

( the insecurity displayed by the "god" of that story is idiotic, & the blunt fact that help has been provided to humankind, repeatedly, since then, falsifies the message in that part of their bible that "god" wants us kept down, as pets: it investes in our evolving, & there's even a book specifically on that, though from an Abrahamic-religion perspective, called "The Evolution of God", which .. isn't written by a believer, but comes to the conclusion that someone has been cultivating evolution, consistently, among the peoples of that "god". )


The "grace" left-behind by ones who experience moral-anxiety is the "grace" of being mere-animals, who don't have moral-anxieties.

This is an absolutely-factual metaphor/parable about the mere-animal ancestors of humankind vs the moral-anxiety/moral-difficulties condition of our "generation".

Also, there's another corroboration, but much more recent..

there's a yt vid on how Gobekli Tepe somehow was a metropolis without agriculture: Natural Abundance was sufficient for them to do that, & they didn't break their ecology, the way we do..

But you've still got the "grace"/"non-grace" difference between the people who just lived in natural-abundance & didn't break their ecology vs our-generation..


Oh, & as far as I can tell, the Abrahamic-religion authorities are looking totally at the wrong frame-of-reference, in trying to discern where the "Garden of Eden" was: it means Earth, not some limited-locale of it.

Earth was pristine, lush, drenchingly-alive ( I've read that the cod were sooo thick in off the Atlantic coast of Canada, that the fishermen said you could walk from ship to ship .. exageration, certainly, but .. the fish were, on average, 80y old, back then, & huge. Nowadays, they're .. a few years old, 8yo was what I'd read last century, & then we broke the coral-forests they breed in, & the cod-fishery collapsed, & never recovered. We're incompetent at preserving natural-wealth, & we do it in ALL contexts, all fisheries, all forests, .. where's all the BEST farmland on Earth? under concrete, because we converted it all to cities, since that was where the people were.

Idiocy ).

We're destroying the Garden of Eden, globally.

No matter: The Great Filter, our species-puberty, will force-exterminate our race, if we won't grow-up quick enough, completely enough.

Natural Selection, but at planet-scale.


& finally, free-will requires ability-to-choose-wrong.

Puppets aren't what we are.

( it is continuums/souls which are ChildrenOfG-D/CellsOfG-D, it isn't our-lives/incarnations: those are children-of-souls, so grandchildren-of-G-D )

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