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[–] teuniac_@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Flexibility is a pretty broad term. The point is that having children can give parents a special excuse to ask for flexibility. But there is important stuff going on too in the lives of people who don't have children, but they don't have this special excuse. The need stays the same: flexibility

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its not an excuse, parents really do, or should, have less time available than someone without kids.

The real problem is people thinking they need to justify their time off at all. Its either possible or not, and a worker either fits into a role or doesn't. Playing games is for children, if someone needs time off then they need it, its not up for debate.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Its not an excuse, parents really do, or should, have less time available than someone without kids.

And they chose this. I didn't choose not to have kids so I'd be more available to cover shit at work. I did it so I'd have as much free time as possible to enjoy my life.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Then don't be pissed off when managers schedule those with more free time more often, or call them in more often.

Its also hilarious to assume every childbirth is intentional.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago

Its also hilarious to assume every childbirth is intentional.

It's part of the sexism that is barely under the surface of childfree communities. Harder to punish women for their life choices if they have to think about the many reasons one may find themselves burdened with a child.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Because noones doing anything wrong, you just don't like it.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

They are doing something wrong if they think their kids bullshit is more important than whatever I have going on on my days off. My time is as valuable as theirs.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Nobody claimed that time off with their children were more important than your time off for your fitness session.

You were just the one who accepted the shift because you can move your fitness session. Your flexibility works in your favor, because you're also the one getting paid for the hours that you decided to work.

You can say no to extra work for no reason. You do not have to make up excuses for not working extra. It is not your boss's job to evaluate which lie is more worthy of not working in their free time.

If your boss ask why you can't cover a shift outside of schedule, just call it what it is: None of his business.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody claimed that time off with their children were more important than your time off for your fitness session.

Bullshit. Everywhere I've ever worked has had people demanding their holiday PTO days get approved over others because they don't have anyone to take care of their kids.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So what's the alternative?

Should the boss order them to work on days where they're clearly not going to show up because it would also be illegal for them to leave a child without care?

Family beats work.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah? Fire their asses and get someone who will show up to their shifts when they're scheduled.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Or... Hear me out.. You could learn to say no to extra work yourself.

Force the employer to hire the adequate number of employees to cover the shifts that they want covered. That's what their fucking job is. Don't do it for them by being a pushover.

Don't blame the parents for doing what you should be doing.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That would be where I call in because the parent got their time off approved over me. In which case I'm the one who gets fired. Taking a stand is cool and all until you can't pay your rent. You can't force someone to do anything without leverage.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If there was one I'd be in it.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You're right, it's better to attack your fellow workers instead of putting blame where it belongs.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Wanting everyone to have the same access to time off is attacking people..... Okay.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You don't want everyone to have the same access to time off. You want preferential treatment as a childless person. You want parents to be discriminated against for having children.

Your comment history is public.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 17 hours ago

Please link the comment where I said I wanted preference.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Parents think their kid's bullshit is more important than their own job, not yours. That's why they aren't clocking in for their own job that day.

It's your employers fault for calling you in on a day off and your fault for accepting it.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I've never come in on one of my days off. I'm talking about getting PTO approved and having to argue about it while someone is getting preference because they should be allowed to spend time with their family or some shit.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

The responsibility to have work coverage is on your employer, not your coworkers.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's why we get fired for not showing up when we're scheduled.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Why are you being a shill for capitalism?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Because I understand how things work in the real world I guess?

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You're advocating for all parents to be fired from their jobs because they have children.

You still think you know how things work in the real world?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say that anywhere. I said they shouldn't get preferential treatment and they should plan accordingly to work the shifts they are scheduled for or face the consequences. Same as childless people do. Are you saying every parent is incapable of that?

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Every person is incapable of never needing a day off of work.

No matter how hard you want to blame parents for your misfortunes, the work balance is ultimately the responsibility of your employer.

You will never rid the world of children and parents.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And we take the hit when we have an unscheduled day off. That's how being employed works. Forcing childless people to have more unscheduled days off because parents get priority on scheduling PTO is unfair to those without kids.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Forcing childless people to have more unscheduled days off because parents get priority on scheduling PTO is unfair to those without kids.

But it isn't parents fault that your employer is being unfair to you. Your employer could just as easily staff more people and allow as much time off for childless people as parents.

But you're not yelling about employers, you're yelling about how parents shouldn't have children.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. Employers aren't going to change. If everyone wants to mob up and try to force them to I'm all for it. But for now the reality of the situation is childless people are getting shafted worse than parents because the parents demand special treatment.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 17 hours ago

People aren't going to stop having kids either.

It's much more feasible to force our employers to give us more workers rights than to keep people from procreating.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 21 hours ago

Yep, they chose to have the kids (in many cases), sorry, that's what happens.

At least they'll have a caretaker when they're old, I won't!! So in payment for that, they don't get as much free time and less sleep. It's a tradeoff. But I'm awful at long term thinking and don't want to subject a human to taking care of elderly people, so that's my choice to make :)