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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Would solar boilers be more efficient than PV?

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

No, neither will it be cheaper.

People stopped building those some years ago.

(But those incredibly expensive concentrators with a single tower are more efficient. Nobody is building those anymore either.)

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They used to be cheaper. Solar is bananas cheap now

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Generating electricity by boiling water used to be the cheapest option, but nowadays it's a bottleneck that itself is way more expensive than the alternatives that people actually build.

It only got cheaper with time, though. It's the alternatives (PV, wind, batteries, gas) that improved a crazy amount.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I assume not efficient enough to justify cost

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turns out that sunlight is very cheap. You need a lot of efficiency to justify any extra cost.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Plus, you get a lot of lag when heating water with concentrated solar. Overnight your water cools down, so you need time to get it back to boiling temperature before it can generate any power. That lag gets worse during winter and cloudy days

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In some ways, that lag is good. You can cheaply replace batteries with just a thermal mass.

But it's not good enough to make up for the cost difference.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

The sunlight spent just to get the water up to temperature is also wasted, so the maximum extractable energy per day gets kneecapped

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

PV panels have very low maintenance needs

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Another thread I read said that photovoltaics have an efficiency of around 45%, while turbines are somewhere in the 40% range. Source: I dunno.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

PVs max out around 28%

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turbines are over 90% efficient.

[–] zout@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

Traditional Rankine cycles with a boiler, a turbine and a condenser have efficiencies lower than 40%, I've never seen one higher than 30%.