An Angus Reid survey says three-quarters of more than 4,000 respondents are in favour of a ban like the one in Australia, where youth under 16 are prevented from setting up accounts on TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Snapchat and Threads.

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[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't see how uploading a picture with my personal information to every website I visit would be a solution to this through. Now what about enthusiasts that want to host a website for a blog (like myself) do I need to start to collect your personal information when you choose to visit my website? What will I be able to do with said information?

Instead a simple solution would be something similar to what libraries and librarians do.

Websites should be classified based on age brackets, genres, and any other useful identifying information similar to how books are classified in libraries.

I would propose that a local government funded initiative be setup that to allows the same equivalent of a librarian to curate the internet into defined whitelists based on these criteria.

From there parent then can choose or not choose to activate these specific whitelists either at the home network level or device level.

All this tech already exists, and for tech-savvy users, this functions basically the same way as a pihole or AdGuard, these can also be completely setup both in your home network and still function while out.

[+] Canconda@lemmy.ca -7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You're conflating UK age verification laws for accessing porn with Social Media bans in Australia.

There's a difference between prohibiting social media companies from providing services to 13 year olds and legally requiring companies to verify ID.

edit: USA is a shithole so I'm guessing you don't have 3rd party verification through banks etc.

[–] FlareHeart@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, there is a difference, but one leads to the other. How do you think the bans will be enforced?

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

USA is a shithole so I'm guessing you don't have 3rd party verification through banks etc.

You can look up the legislation in Australia where uploading ID is one of several verification methods.

Enforcement doesn't need to be entirely at the point of access. By making it illegal companies are obligated to cancel the account upon discovery they have done so.

[–] FlareHeart@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I live in Canada, so not sure what the USA has to do with my verification capabilities. (This article is also Canadian, so not sure what the US has to do with anything)

But there still needs to be some mechanism for said discovery. If that mechanism is me being subjected to an AI "facial estimate" or uploading my ID, those are big NO's for me.

If there is a privatized mechanism used simply for "yes this person is an adult" then fine. But as of right now there is no such privatized mechanism in Canada.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

If there is a privatized mechanism used simply for "yes this person is an adult" then fine. But as of right now there is no such privatized mechanism in Canada.

There is. It's 3rd party verification via major banks or your provincial services account. They don't give your ID out, it's a vouching system.

[–] FlareHeart@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Which province are you in? I've never heard of such a thing in my province?

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sign into a government website like CRA

[–] FlareHeart@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That is Identity Verification. CRA confirms a lot more with your bank than just your age.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

You're daft. I'm done.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So how would any proposed laws be enforceable without some sort of ID verification (ie. Age verification) in place?

Or are we talking a simple "confirm you're not a robot button", but for age? Similar to what porn sites have asking if you're over 18.

Or would you prefer everyone including yourself need to upload something like a drivers license to access websites... Like Lemmy for example?

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

USA is a shithole so I'm guessing you don't have 3rd party verification through banks etc.

As I said, you can look up the legislation in Australia where uploading ID is one of several verification methods.

Enforcement doesn't need to be entirely at the point of access. By making it illegal companies are obligated to cancel the account upon discovery they have done so.

LIke you're still conflating 2 very different things based on how your framing your question. It's a strawman tbh. Like you could easily go answer this question for yourself if you cared beyond winning a reddit argument.