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Since lawns are bad for the environment, what do you think lawns should be replaced with?

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, the correct answer is MORE HOUSING. Yes, lawns are bad for the environment in their own right as a monoculture that requires dumping fertilizer and pesticides on it to maintain an "acceptable" quality. But if you are in the US, it is not unlikely that you have mandatory minimum lot sizes, minimum setbacks on all sides of the propety (especially large in the front), and a mandate that the front area must be grass. You also are not allowed to construct more structures on your lot for the purposes of housing, or run any kind of business on your property that might have customers physically visit the space or have any visible impact on the property.

The result is:

  • More expensive housing, since each house is required to sit on more land than it physically takes up.
  • More expensive cost of living, since finding sufficient new land requires building farther out, making commutes longer and therefore more expensive.
  • Car dependency for daily tasks, since no one can build a gym or a corner store in your neighborhood.
  • Reduced social cohesion, since even if a friend lives nearby, you will probably drive to their place since walking in a lawn-filled neighborhood is boring, and the gaps between homes mean their house is that much farther away
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Sure, but if you build all around your existing house, how do you get in or out or see through the windows?

This seems like just airdropping our favourite cause into a practical question.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, once we build a single monolithic glass and steel skyscraper to completely encase all the single family homes, we'll begin to exterminate their inhabitants, so they don't need to get in or out, you see?

Seriously - obviously you won't completely encase existing housing in other housing. Exactly how to create a productive, enjoyable environment for everyone will depend on the property, the owner, and what they want to use the space for. This is more art than science, and I certainly can't make universal declarations about how to best do it. But land is valuable because it can be put to productive uses - not just be expensive ornimentation. Of course, there is nothing wrong with ornimentation, so if you want your lawn to be a lawn, or artistic gravel, or whatever, then you are welcome to it. But a great many people, if they were freed legally, would take a great interest in what use the majority of their property could be put to for others' benefit and their own profit.

We need housing. We need small corner stores. We need neighborhood pubs. We need independently owned restaurants. We need art studios and workshops. We need gyms and daycares. We need so many things more than we need empty space on every parcel of land devoted exclusively to looking good (whatever your definition of "good" is).

And the thing is, if a land owner were to more fully develop their property - a small, blocky shop building in front built up to the street; a second residence in the back; a detached shed/workshop; and a space for a compact gypsy wagon, maybe to host guests - then what to do with the remaining "lawn" space would hardly be a question worth asking. Once a space has its landmarks and usefulness and is no longer a vast expanse of nothing, what to do with it becomes obvious. Put in small paths. Put some pavers down and add a pergola for an outdoor space. Put garden beds here, and some grass over there. Maybe a koi pond if you're ambitious.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Thank you kind stranger!

[–] aaa999@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

the entire debate is set up to promote answers other than this, the correct answer