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The third No Kings protests are expected to draw millions. Do they need clearer goals? (www.theguardian.com)

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More than 3,100 anti-authoritarian protests are scheduled across the US and at least 15 other countries on Saturday. All these events will take place under a single banner: No Kings.

Formally launched in June to fight back against Trump administration policies, the No Kings movement has grown with astonishing speed – its second and most recent mass protest in October drew an estimated 7 million participants. Organizers expect Saturday’s events to be the biggest protest in American history.

But the movement is also leaderless, broad in cause and hasn’t advanced any policy demands. Some social movements experts recognize No Kings’ momentum but question if it needs clearer goals.

“There’s not any one way to get people into a movement. You want to have as many doors open as possible because you have to reach people wherever they are,” said Hahrie Han, a political scientist at Johns Hopkins University and the co-author of Prisms of the People: Power & Organizing in Twenty-First-Century America. “The bigger challenge is, once they’re there, how do you keep them there, and then how do you channel that engagement in collective ways?”

But organizers say they are aware of such critiques and that these choices are all by design.

“The name No Kings is, in and of itself, a demand. It is a direct repudiation of this administration, of this regime, of its unconstitutional, illegal, immoral and frankly profane actions,” said Hunter Dunn, an organizer with the 50501 movement, one of the groups behind No Kings. “It’s a declaration of intent that we are going to return power back to the people.”

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[–] AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think NK is definitely valuable as a way to inspire people who otherwise wouldn't even know where to begin with protesting, and I think it's a great way to organize people or at least build awareness of local activist/mutual aid groups. Outside of that I would argue that a protest planned for a specific time on a specific date with a specific end point is little more than cathartic. There's personal value in catharsis but not societal value; it feels good but doesn't create change.

And no, assuming that the goal of OWS was to create actual change, it definitely and unfortunately failed. It's relevant to the extent that it shows people what doesn't work.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Outside of that I would argue that a protest planned for a specific time on a specific date with a specific end point is little more than cathartic. There’s personal value in catharsis but not societal value; it feels good but doesn’t create change.

But it does avoid all manner of exclusionary purity tests by making them almost impossible -- something that is usually fatal for the left -- while robbing the opposition of an easily attackable goal. Imagine if No Kings were riven with all the infighting and clashing of sub-goals other protests have been. That's why I think it's genius: it's an unashamedly large tent, so much so that no one group or ideology retains a right to define, and therefore enforce, any given direction.

But that's just me, and I think we look at this differently, but I appreciate you taking the time to explain what you meant. I will think about what you said, because you're coming with nuance I had not considered and it's a complex issue. Thank you for the reasoned response.