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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 152 points 4 days ago (6 children)

A hardcore maga coworker told me that “if” it’s proven that Trump “was” in the Epstein files he will still vote for him because I’m his own words “I would rather vote for a pedophile than an honest democrat.”

[–] galacticbackhoe@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I always point to the Alabama Senate election between Roy Moore and Doug Jones. Roy Moore, known pedophile, vs. normal Democrat. Far too many conservatives went on record saying "better than a Democrat".

They are so anti-pedophile until suddenly they're not. What a disgusting thing to change your opinion on, person to person.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 days ago

What a disgusting thing to change your opinion on, person to person.

That's the thing, they never changed their opinion, they just lied

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 53 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And they wonder why their kids never visit anymore 🙄

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Sad thing is he has 2 sons and they are also hardcore maga too. His oldest son has a toddler and he’s said he’s gonna raise his the right way in that to be conservative.

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Ask him what specific conservative policies he supports. Don't even push back at first, just make him try and articulate what principles he even believes in that aren't in opposition to something. Like ask "if all the liberals vanished in an instant, what do you and your side believe in and want?"

So many of these people are so wrapped up in fighting boogymen they just truly haven't even realized how hollow the cart they've attached their horse to is

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Making conservatives defend their own policies is like asking my dog to make dinner.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I have already and he just repeats whatever he last heard on Fox News.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 4 days ago

It's dangerous to reason with those who are not liberated - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He only had two kids? Must hate America. I jest...

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Yea the thing that really pisses me off about him is like most boomer or boomer adjacent people is he is extremely privileged. His dad was a founding member of Boeing after WW2 and his dad had a hand in establishing Lockheed Martin. When his dad passed he got a huge inheritance like millions and he still complains about lazy millennials and Gen Z not buying or able to afford homes and groceries.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 67 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They're so proud to lick boots

[–] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Do these people mean it as democracy per se or just the democratic party? Just trying to understand your country's stage of fascism.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No they pearl clutch and love America and the democracy it has. But they have been taught that Democrats/Liberals are horrible, disgusting people. It's a knee jerk reaction at this point. My brother, who is hardcore maga, said "no I don't think they are talking about you. You aren't a 'liberal'". Like he was saving me from a terrible slur. And I had to nicely tell him that I am, in fact, liberal.

It kind of feels like the hatred against "the gays" in the 90s. They need someone to hate and right now it's the Democrats and liberals, and I guess everyone else the media has told them to hate (lgbtq, trans, etc).

[–] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

They need to understand what you get when you remove 1 party from a 2 party system.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

These people aren’t sophisticated enough to know that small-d democrats are a thing

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

They don’t even know the rules, they just make up or move be flag pole as needed…

[–] DeprecatedCompatV2@programming.dev 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ackchyually it's not a democracy, it's a constitutional republic, and those are words I read off a screen. They mean that my political team is better than yours and that owning land should give my political team more voting rights than yours.

[–] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago

Owning land? What? Go vote, moron

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

either that or its a low information i know one in my family, they either become defensive say "i dont care" or i dont know his policies, but still support him.

[–] aizawaA02@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

What!? Absolutely vile and disgusting. “I rather vote for a p*** than an honest democrat.” Are we in hell? Are we in hell? I am gonna assume most magas are p****. Every single one of them.