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[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 118 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Actually, the other side mostly wants things to stay the same. Their constituents, on the other hand, would like to see better healthcare, education, unions, and stronger safety nets. But since the other side aren’t fascists, their voters are stuck with them.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 56 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This right here ☝️. The grassroots democrats I could support. It's the Chuck Schumers and John Fettermans that will undermine the party from within that make supporting democrats difficult.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's always a rotating villain.

Used to be Dianne Feinstein. Then it was Joe Manchin. Then it was that Sinema bitch. Now it's Fetterman and Schumer.

And people just kind of ignore the pattern and pretend it isn't a party-wide PR strategy.

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 0 points 4 days ago

Not speaking for anyone else, but I’m fully aware of what the Democratic Party stands for. Problem is, the alternative has gotten so much worse.

Before the current madness, there was a part of me aching to vote for someone crazy to come and hasten the act of burning this mess to the ground. Then I saw it, and got scared. Maybe that’s when I should’ve leaned in.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Then primary them.

The odds of us getting out of this with a revolution are vanishingly small.

The answer is going to be reforming the Democrat party by primarying the Schumers and the Fettermans out.

Party reformation has happened multiple times in American history and conservatives literally just did it in the worst way possible to the Republican party over the last decade or two.

Party reformation takes time. That is life.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Right, but in the mean time it makes any attempt to claim "The Democrats stand for [insert policy position]" a lie, because while an individual democrat may believe in those things, the part as a whole can't agree on anything at all. They can't even align themselves on their own platform, let alone apply pressure to the Republicans. At best they're nothing but a speed break for more republican policy. You're still getting republican policy, just slower, and they can't move the needle in the other direction even if they win because they'll simply surrender in advance.

Wasting more time and more money trying to slow the rate the US collapses into a burning train wreck is an exercise in futility. The only real solution is to try and build a "coalition of the willing" to preserve what is left and the Republicans drive the rest, screaming incoherently, off the cliff they're headed for. Small scale organizing, networks to help move people to safety "underground railroad" style, to move material and finances in ways that circumvent federal control, create safe-havens that can resist federal encroachment and operate outside of federal regulation meant to break down resistance. Register some "Churches" that can provide physical plant and meeting grounds, as well as offer support services when federal support is ripped up. Build a nation within a nation.

Voting for Democrats isn't going to stop this spiral. They have no vision, no will, no unity, and zero political capital to actually create change. Sure, vote blue to slow the bleeding, if you're still allowed by next election, but as long as they're a party so big tent they have no direction at all, they're just a slower, more painful collapse.