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Tenth grader Arnaldo Bazan and his father were stopped by ICE at a McDonalds, when their car was rammed by unidentified ICE agents. The two were taken into custody and brutally beaten. According to the teenager, the ICE agents also repeatedly called him slurs, stole his phone and pawned it for $250.


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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (11 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[–] RedWizard@news.abolish.capital 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Blaming "protest‑non‑voters" for ICE brutality misses why Kamala Harris lost the 2024 election, and why Democrats keep failing vulnerable communities.

Yes, Gaza cost Harris votes: about 422,000 Democratic‑leaning voters stayed home or voted third‑party, with roughly 122,380 directly linked to protest (Al‑Shabaka). But protest voters were a smaller factor compared to the 6.8 million former Biden voters who switched sides or stayed home due to broader campaign failures (Common Dreams).

The Democratic Party’s own autopsy points to larger failures: voter disenchantment as millions switched sides or stayed home, a chaotic primary process, abandoning the working class to court Republicans and donors, alienating young and minority voters over Gaza and the economy, and losing Black and Latino voters who shifted toward Trump (NPR).

ICE brutality isn’t a Trump‑only problem. Obama deported a record 2.7 million people (Migration Policy Institute). Biden’s Title 42 expulsions removed over 2.5 million migrants without asylum hearings (PBS NewsHour). The agency’s culture of violence was built by successive administrations.

When we blame individuals who refused to vote for a candidate supporting genocide, we ignore why Democrats offered such a candidate. The answer isn’t that voters failed the party, it’s that the party failed voters. A political machine funded by corporate donors cannot deliver protection for vulnerable people.

If we want to stop ICE brutality, we need to confront the system that produces both Republican and Democratic presidents who expand its powers. Focusing on “protest‑non‑voters” lets that system off the hook.


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Curious if any of you could do a better job of explaining this persons position here.

[–] CoolCat@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

He's saying the results of the last elections could have gone different if the people who didn't vote would have voted, focusing his comment on the ones who didn't vote out of some form of protest.

To which I agree. That being said, I don't view the voters as the only problem like he seems to do in different comments. The two party system is inherently flawed and the entire system has to change.

[–] Two_Hangmen@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And tens of millions of people didn't vote. Even if the people who didn't vote had voted for Kamala, we wouldn't have Trump right now.

I didn't want Biden or Harris as President, but when the other option is Trump, I'm going to take the option that isn't openly advocating for racism.

But maybe things need to get worse before they'll get better.

Edit: meant to say even if 1/2 the people who didn't vote had voted for Kamala.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Who's blaming? I am informing protest-non-voters what they voted for.

[–] RedWizard@news.abolish.capital -2 points 5 days ago

lol, ok. I'm not interested in people who are not interested in learning, or listening. So peace out.

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