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How to ditch systemd on Debian if you don't like the recent changes (frost.brightfur.net)

submitted 1 week ago by forestbeasts@pawb.social to c/linuxfurs@pawb.social

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systemd recently pulled some shit, adding a field to store people's birthdates because of a new California law. (It's not the field itself that's the problem, it's how easily they're jumping to comply with shitty laws.)

This has our whole friend group rightfully freaking out. I'm pretty glad that it's now normal to be uncomfortable with systemd, it makes me feel a whole lot less weird. I do wish the circumstances were better though.

Anyway, since we switched most of our machines (all our physical ones, not our VMs/LXC containers/VPS though) to OpenRC a little while back, I figured I'd (do it again in a VM and) document the process for anyone who wants to jump ship too. Hence, my blog post!

(Unfortunately if you're on Arch it sounds like you're a bit screwed unless you get your init system from the AUR and write all the scripts yourself. I have no idea about Fedoraland.)

-- Frost

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[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Try Devuan! https://www.devuan.org/

Or antiX Linux https://antixlinux.com/

Both generally based on Debian

[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah!

We've heard from our friends that one of the Devuan devs is bad, but I can't remember the details. AntiX seems cool though. I went to check it out the other day and it didn't offer OpenRC as one of the download options, unfortunately (I'm sure runit is nice too but it's not what we know :3).

I wonder whether it's a harder sell to suggest people a Weird Tiny Distro™ like antix, or a normal distro like Debian with the nasty stuff removed.

(At least antix has been around for a while, so it's probably not likely to disappear overnight. But it's also not big-name like say Debian or Arch.)

-- Frost