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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 185 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

Disposable vapes are genuinely evil. With the lithium inside the batteries they are significantly more dangerous than throwing a cigarette out your car window. They have chips inside them with metals that can be recycled and they are made of a hard plastic that'll be around for thousands if years. Whenever I mention this to people I know they agree with me that it's evil but continue to use disposable vapes because it's more convenient. I keep telling my roommates that it's massively cheaper to get a refillable one and they always agree but never buy one. Every time I go to the vape shop to get juice and coils I drop off a literal tub of disposable vapes from my roommates.

I'm so tired of people being complacent in this and I'm tired of making this rant. People will get nervous about batteries when they see a phone explode in someone's pocket but they'll throw that shit on the ground or in the trash without a second thought. Just go back to smoking if you wanna throw shit on the ground. It's better for the environment and public safety that way anyway.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

They're vaping. They're not intelligent to begin with.

[–] quips@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago
[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Have you seen this shit?

Factory workers test 1000 of these contraptions per day.

it's truly evil.

Human beings will get extinct due choosing convenience over sustainability.

[–] Aralakh@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wtf that's all kinds of messed up

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Welcome to capitalism.

Consume shit that harms you while also harming poor workers and the environment

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

That's so incredibly messed up

It reminds me of the radium girls

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] hoch@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I like nicotine

[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (25 children)

Using it to quit smoking is a good idea, and the only one actually.

But disposable !? FUCK ME this world is doomed...

[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Replacing a cig with something that has no immediate downsides and is always available. Hmm

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember reading somewhere that vaping is more addictive than smoking. Sure it is not as bad as smoking health wise but the bar is set extremely low.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

I believe it, it can have a much higher nicotine concentration if you want it to and vape juice is tasty.

The one saving grace of cigarettes are that they taste like garbage so it's harder to get proper addicted to them. But a good vape will taste like candy even to a non smoker, so you can get drunk with your buddy one night and take a couple rips off of his watermelon flavored vape and exit that night with an intense craving for more, ask me how I know.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Using it to quit smoking is a good idea

Not really. You are just exchanging one addictive habit for another. Tobacco companies have been selling vapes as safe alternatives to smoking driven by social media bots and MD shills, but it's a big fucking lie.

Heating glycerol to make vapor breaks glycerol, a safe compound into DHA dihydroacetone, which causes DNA damage which can trigger cancer in lung.

But that's just DHA. We have no idea and have no testing or regulation of what goes into vapes coming out of Chinese chemical plants. No one is looking at this.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)
  1. Vapes don't typically get hot enough to break glycerin down into DHA. The normal temperature range is 400-450F while glycerin breaks down at 536F

  2. That's an invitro study which is basically worthless.

  3. That's a valid point about Chinese eliquid, which is part of why disposables aren't a good option.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Vapes don’t typically get hot enough to break glycerin down into DHA. The normal temperature range is 400-450F while glycerin breaks down at 536F

That is wrong.

That’s an invitro study which is basically worthless.

It's in cell models, not in vitro.

Here's a mouse study.

We'll just wait for the human data to eventually show up, but the studies running on this were killed by Trump when he killed the NIH last year. No way inhaling huge quantities of DHA isn't dangerous. This is a major concern in sunblock cremes and that's not even deep ingestion into lungs.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 6 days ago

Bro, they were firing old school clearomizers with a starting wattage that's at the top of what's recommended. You can tell by the conversation graphs because EC3 is a more modern tank and it's an order of magnitude lower.

There's a reason why clearomizers didn't stay around long. They designed this study to produce DHA. You can tell because there was no change in EC3 across the temperatures, yet they scaled their graph to make it look comparable to the clearomizers. And the levels in EC3 were so low that it could have easily been machine error given the way they had to measure it.

The amount EC3 produced is 50x lower than the lowest amount the mice were exposed to.

If you use a temperature controlled mod, this is all a non-issue.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Used to be a pack a day smoker. Personally I don't think it's better for my health, but I don't smell like an ash tray so I got that going for me.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Really? It didn't make you feel better either?

When I got rid of cigarettes and started vaping, the differences were noticeable within a week or two, and they were astronomical. No more couching, no more headaches, less difficulty breathing, more energy, no more hoarse throat. Food tasted better too!

Now, I know, this is not to say that vaping is healthy, but it does seem to suggest that it is at the very least healthier (or less unhealthy, if you want) than smoking cigarettes, unless feeling much better and getting rid of pain is a sign of worse health? In addition my clothes didn't stink anymore and vaping is way cheaper too.

Admittedly it took me almost 3 years, but I eventually got my nicotine content down to zero.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

It did at first but after a couple years of vaping it basically feels the same now. Even got the smokers cough back even though I'm just vaping.

To be fair, I've also gained like 40 lbs so it's entirely possible I'm just outta shape lol (and yes I'm currently working on fixing that)

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

I wish there was a $1/vape return scheme. Like we do here where I live with pop bottles. People would pick them out of the trash to return.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm not one for banning things willy nilly, but disposable vapes need banned. I'd much rather people vape a liquid refilled repairable vape like the kids used when I was young, but even pod type vapes are better. This is just reprehensibly avoidable e waste.

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[–] AmmenDegen@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I vape cannabis. Whenever I go to the dispensary, it always surprises me how many disposable products there are. Some strains it's not even possible to buy them as non-disposable carts at some of the IL dispensaries I go to. I always try to pick standalone carts, but I have also had it where I've ordered a cart online and they ended up trying to give me a disposable replacement without asking.

It's nuts to me that people are buying these rechargeable things with batteries to throw out as a default (it's definitely seems more popular than re-usable carts at dispensaries I've been to). Why wouldn't you want your own device with your settings saved if you vape versus using some random piece of shit attached to the very expensive goop you're smoking? I don't get disposables at all. You start saving money after 3 or so carts if you buy your own battery.

Even worse: if you wanted to recycle one of them many are designed with housings that make it nearly impossible to open them up and replace the cartridge.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Those things clog/shit the bed so easily that I've become a master maintainer of them. But that's pretty much what I did in the army, only with radios.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would really help a lot if gas stations actually carried refillable tanks. Shit, even the replaceable pods are better.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, they did have the pods more widely available back when I started vaping to quit smoking. Unfortunately, big tobacco companies lobbied to get all the pod flavors banned and now the only ones you can get at gas stations are menthol and tobacco flavor which both taste awful. Disposable vapes filled the market gap that was created and now we have disposable vapes with lithium batteries plaguing the places cigarette butts used to be.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 1 week ago

That wasn't big tobacco, actually. Big T fought against the FDA on it.

The reason the FDA went so hard on it is because states had already spent their expected revenue from tobacco taxes and vaping cut into that heavily.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (7 children)
[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yeah, surprisingly. But it's just vaping now. I started vaping to quit smoking but you have to account for half of gen z getting hooked on juuls awhile back. When those first became popular I was more surprised when I found people that didn't vape.

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