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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Tehran has said it will “irreversibly destroy” essential infrastructure across the Middle East, including vital water systems, if the US follows through on Donald Trump’s threat to “obliterate” Iran’s power plants unless the strait of Hormuz is fully opened within two days.

That's why we shouldn't have taken this tact. When you put a regime that has proven it does not care about civilian lives or human rights into a situation where they have nothing to lose, you are putting innocent lives at risk. Of course Trump and Netanyahu don't care about human lives, either. So the situation is especially dangerous.

Remember the Waco siege in 1993? The Feds tried to raid the compound of David Koresh and the Branch Davidians, because they thought they had illegal weapons. It turned into a stand off that lasted 51 days, and ended with a huge fire and 70 some of the Branch Davidians were killed, including a bunch of kids. No one is 100% sure who started the fire. Some people think an incendiary tear gas canister thrown into the compound by the Feds started the fire. Others think David Koresh and his people deliberately started the fire themselves. But, honestly, it really doesn't matter who started the fire, the Feds shouldn't have put a man like Koresh into a situation like that. By putting a potentially dangerous person into an increasingly no-win situation, where innocent lives were involved, you're putting those innocent lives at serious risk.

The current situation in Iran is similar, but of course on a much larger scale. By pinning the Khamenei regime in a corner, we are putting innocent lives at risk. Some will say, "well, the regime should surrender to save lives." Yes, they should, but they won't. David Koresh should have surrendered to prevent the deaths of those children, but he didn't. You can try to absolve yourself of responsibility for the tragedy, as the Feds did in the Koresh case, by saying, "if they would've just surrendered, those innocent people would still be alive," but that won't bring back the dead.

Some people get so caught up in "defeating the bad guy," that they completely lose sight of the harm they are facilitating. At some point you have to ask yourself, "is this about winning or about saving lives?" Is this about you looking tough and dominant, and not backing down, or is this about protecting innocent people? If it's the former, how many innocent lives are you willing to put at risk to "win" this battle of masculine wills?

[–] dreksob@feddit.online 2 points 1 week ago

Some people get so caught up in “defeating the bad guy,” that they completely lose sight of the harm they are facilitating. At some point you have to ask yourself, “is this about winning or about saving lives?”

I don't think anybody ever believed that the war was about saving lives.

I doubt if Republicans even want to win.

Republicans want to distract people from how Republicans are all defending serial child rapists, and want to drive up the debt in order to destabilize America.

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