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[–] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

a giant flywheel for every town!

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Pumped Hydro is a pretty safe storage method using preexisting technology if you have hills in the area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PH0IJ-_qOI

[–] lime@feddit.nu 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i don't want safe, i want DANGER!

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Store it as compared air in steel tanks buried underneath your home. No protective coating.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 1 week ago

sounds like he's not even trying then

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Giant flywheels are also safe. Great for smoothing out energy generation from a fickle source as well.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 1 week ago

not if you leave them uncovered!

[–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Like any hydroelectrics it has large environment impact and dam failures tend to be the deadliest industrial disasters when they happen. Also most good locations have already been used. You cannot just build it wherever (without insane costs). Pumped hydro is hardly a solution here.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Pumped hydro isn't the same as a hydroelectric dam. Because both reservoirs are engineered and you don't have the concrete wall as the single point of failure, you don't have the same risks involved. Pump Hydro can be whatever size you want and spread out to distribute the grid load.

Also, are dam failures worse then Climate Change or are they just more dramatic?

[–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Then you either have small cheap and safe, without much capacity (so you need many of those), or big, with the problems of the big hydroelectric projects.

Of course pumped hydro has and will have its place in the grid, but it cannot solve all the energy storage problems.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Apparently you can do something similar with sand if you live in a desert.

[–] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Thermal sand batteries are a thing, I think?

That was some solution talked about on Undecided.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Gravity Batteries? They're much, much easier using water compared to solid masses.

You could store solar energy as heat in sand and use turbines(if you have water) or Sterling Engines(if you don't) to spine a generator. Peltiers are a solid state method to convert heat to electricity, but they aren't very efficient.