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We did this.
Trump is the inevitable result of liberals spending all their energy opposing progressives and cooperating with fascists.
The portion of the adult American population that remains blameless is vanishingly small.
We decided at some point to stop enforcing laws on rich people and the whole world is paying the consequence for that. We are mostly the source of most of the aggression on most of the planet, I don't know about you but I'm old enough to say it's been 40 years of this shit to my recollection.
Speak for yourself. I voted Green.
That's a salient point, but the 'we' you're pointing to isn't a part of this. Billionaires and the Epstein Class are who the finger should be pointing at. Voters only have any real power at the local level, unless you're planning to follow in the footsteps of Player 2.
Again, I'd argue there's no we here. The only power you or I have is in our local neighborhood, and in mine, we're doing good things. Hell, my city was one of the few to put a killer cop behind bars. (And in the US, you can count on your fingers the number of killer cops who've spent any time in prison.)
Then you did do this lmao
Depends where he lives. I always vote third party, but every district I am in is gerrymandered, and my state is not within 10 points of competitive for president, so my votes do not matter other than getting third parties on the ballot.
Jill Stein is a Russian asset and anyone who supported the green party in 2024 is a cuck who got trump elected. Even if your vote didn't matter, you contributed to the dialogue and publicity they got for their blatant effort to split the vote. We shouldn't have only 2 parties, but in the current system voting 3rd party is performative at best and genuinely dangerous at worst.
There are other 3rd parties.
Did you miss the part where my districts are so lopsided that it does not hurt the lesser of two evils if I vote for good?
Doesn't mean it's not virtue signalling, nor does it mean you didn't contribute to the problem. You voted for a Russian intelligence asset for president of the United States and call it "good" you're a lost fucking cause.
Did you not read when I said "Even if your vote didn't matter, you contributed to the dialogue and publicity they got for their blatant effort to split the vote."
Are you suggesting that the Working Families candidate running for council of my small city is a Russian asset?
Are you suggesting that instead I must vote for the Democrat mayor who got busted for not actually living in the city when she admitted it when her ex-husband was busted for selling drugs out of the house that she claimed to live in (and where her children did live), and then got busted for campaign finance violations but was still allowed to run again?
Or the Democrat state senator who repeatedly defended sex offenders in the Senate?
Or the Democrat governor who gave a billion dollars of taxpayer money to out-of-state billionaires to build a new head-injury stadium (that the state would not own). And who tried to kill congestion pricing in NYC?
You and the vote-blue-no-matter-who people can fuck all the way off if you refuse to put good candidates.
I'm not a "vote blue no matter who" person and nobody is advocating that. I am talking about one election in which there was a specific choice and you made a bad one. In the future, I hope we have better choices, and I'll do whatever I can to advocate for candidates who want to fundamentally restructure our systems.
And yes Jill Stein is a Russian asset or at the very least a shill.
Stein recorded a video from Red Square, in which she talked about "the need to rein in American exceptionalism" and replace "a U.S. policy based on domination." Which, she's not wrong, but she wasn't saying it for the right reasons (hint hint red square).
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And then there's her position on Ukraine which is straight from the mouth of Putin and Lavrov.
“Russia’s invasion was a provoked response to the bigger, more murderous and illegal game plan of US empire… In 2014 the US backed a coup in Ukraine led by far-right insurrectionists. The installation of the new government was a giant step towards the goal of adding Ukraine to NATO - and putting hostile bases and nuclear-capable missiles right on Russia's border.” – Jill Stein (Feb. 24, 2022)
Then theres, you know, her having dinner with Putin. In Moscow. For..... Reasons?
I do not understand why you seem so convinced that I voted for Jill Stein. I did not. I am well aware that she is terrible.
That seems like something you guys should have been more proactive about.
the people who voted for trump got trump elected.
You keep telling yourself that.
A very useful comment. Thank you, and have a lovely Sunday.
About as useful as your vote?
Also, and this is really fun, I literally predicted this in September 2024.
Jill Stein is a Russian asset or at the very least a shill, and you're the idiot that fell for it and voted for her.
"Cornel West, he’s one of my favorite candidates. Cornel West and I like her also, Jill Stein, I like her very much. You know why? She takes 100% from them." - DJT
Stein recorded a video from Red Square, in which she talked about "the need to rein in American exceptionalism" and replace "a U.S. policy based on domination." Which, she's not wrong, but she wasn't saying it for the right reasons (hint hint red square).
Source
And then there's her position on Ukraine which is straight from the mouth of Putin and Lavrov.
“Russia’s invasion was a provoked response to the bigger, more murderous and illegal game plan of US empire… In 2014 the US backed a coup in Ukraine led by far-right insurrectionists. The installation of the new government was a giant step towards the goal of adding Ukraine to NATO - and putting hostile bases and nuclear-capable missiles right on Russia's border.” – Jill Stein (Feb. 24, 2022)
Then theres, you know, her having dinner with Putin. In Moscow. For..... Reasons?
But ya, blame everyone else instead of taking some personal responsibility for being a fucking moron.