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[–] NaibofTabr 72 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Cory Doctorow made a very specific point about this on This Week in Tech 1074, in the context of comparing the growth of the Internet with the current AI market:

The web lost money for a long time. And it's true, they did, but they had good unit economics, right? Every user of the web made the web less unprofitable. Every use of the web made the web less unprofitable. And every generation of the web made the web more profitable. Contrast this with AI, where every time they sign up a user, they lose more money. Every time the user uses their account, they lose even more money.

And every generation of AI accelerates the rate at which they are losing money.

I think it sums up how unsustainable this is very nicely.

[–] phil@lymme.dynv6.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  • "The web" is an open protocol aimed for interoperability
  • "The AI" is a bunch of competing, mostly closed and private services

That will be interesting to see how this difference impacts the bubble explosion.

[–] NaibofTabr 2 points 1 week ago
  • "The web" is an open protocol aimed for interoperability

Yes, although the reality today is that you have to spend a decent amount of money to be on the web effectively. You could run a webpage on an RPi on your home network, but that won't do for much more than a few visitors a day, and it involves several compromises and some security risks.

There isn't really an equivalent to the web's interoperability with these AI systems, except maybe if you're using it to control smart home devices.

  • "The AI" is a bunch of competing, mostly closed and private services

Yeah, although being able to run OpenClaw &etc locally is interesting. Most people won't ever be able to train their own models, but at least self-hosting some of them is an option.

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