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I found this podcast from this reddit-logo post:

I subbed today for a 7th and 8th grade teacher. I’m not exaggerating when I say at least 50% of the students were at a 2nd grade reading level. The students were to spend the class time filling out an “all about me” worksheet, what’s your name, favorite color, favorite food etc. I was asked 20 times today “what is this word?”. Movie. Excited. Trait. “How do I spell race car driver?”

I've only listened to one episode so far, but it's really well produced, seems well-researched and very well put together.

From what I gather so far, the ways that the American public school system "teaches" kids how to read is not only completely wrong, but actually saddles them bad habits which fundamentally hinder their reading comprehension.

A huge swath of American adults are functionally illiterate, and I think I'm starting to understand why.

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[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (20 children)

Either read through some of the linked thread or listen to the first episode of the podcast. It's so dumb it's unbelievable. There's a "system" that is literally "just guess lol".

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (19 children)

Yeah I'm seeing it now, but I just couldn't believe it - Thought I must've misunderstood something. They just make kids memorize whole words instead of learning how letters funtion? It's wild. The us is apparently just full of illiterate youths now?
It does explain quite a few encounters I've had on here and twitter, where users misunderstood basic stuff. A lot of people just reiterating what I write as if it was an argument against me and the like. Seems like reading comprehension is non-existent.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

no no, it's even worse. read the whole word is an older idea. they're teaching kids to guess the word without even looking at it. they're taught to check if they have the word right by looking at the first couple of letters. like they're teaching kids by literally covering up the word and only showing it after they guess.

[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

i can't really believe what i'm reading. i'm a teacher in the global south. i don't even teach formative years, but this feels like the Three Dimensional Chess fantasy applied to pedagogy.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yeah, it's less teaching kids how to read and more purposefully sabotaging their ability to read, based on a fantasy of teaching them to love reading. it's cult woo shit.

[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

why would you teach guesswork as though language is something inherent to the soul and oh fuck thats it isn't it

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yep, it's literally based on the idea that if you put enough books in front of kids, they'll teach themselves how to read.

[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if there is one thing that is universal about teachers is that we aren't well paid. at least in some places we are actually respected and such, but still not well paid. the one thing that keeps teachers going is that its a social profession with lots of meaning behind it. what sort of teacher looks at reading and thinks its not glamorous enough to teach it step by step as a learned skill.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

teachers being sold a system that comes with preplanned material, school supplies, and lots and lots of books, that promises to teach kids to love reading. it's idealism with kickbacks.

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