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I currently have a Motorola Edge 50 Neo. It's a great phone, a little more than a year(?) old. It can't have LineageOS due to it's Dimensity chipset.
I'm considering buying a Fairphone 6, then put LineageOS on it.
Is the Fairphone decent? How's the camera?
Are there any other phones that I should consider (decent camera, will run LineageOS or similar)? Maybe the new Jolla phone?
You should definitely consider the Jolla, but cameras are basically never great on degoogled devices, because flashing a new rom also deletes the OEM proprietary firmware, which was tailor-made for that device. What you get instead is a generic software that never comes close to matching the original quality. I think the hardware makers who sell degoogled phones, like Fairphone, would have chance to make good cameras, but none of them have actual years of experience making cameras, as companies like Samsung and Sony do.
I don't need fancy processing on my photos as longs as it lets me capture some kind of raw format. For photos that I actually care about the quality, a raw is better anyway.
No offense, but you're part of a niche audience there. The vast majority of consumers just want their photos to look good (even when good means "not like reality"). "I need it to have a good camera" ia something you hear over and over again when people tell want it is important to them in a phone.
So are people wanting a Linux phone.
The people who are sharing photos from their phone on social media are running them through filters anyway. All the "smart" shit in the photos are essentially just built-in Instagram filters. And for that you can just download one of 3 million camera apps.
Well that sucks, a decent camera is basically half of what a smartphone is. The ARM ecosystem is such trash.
I am currently using the Fairphone 6 with e/OS and I am very happy with it.
Not a heavy phone user though, as in I don't really take pictures or play hardware heavy games etc, so I wouldn't know how FP6 competes on those fronts.
But for everything else it has worked really well!
Thanks for replying. I don't play games. I'm definitely a light phone user however I like to take photos when I'm out hiking/biking. This Motorola actually takes good photos, even though it's a "budget" phone, so I'd like something equal or better.
Looking at the hardware it almost seems like they are using the same rear camera:
Motorola:
50 MP Sony Sensor - LYTIA ® 700C f/1.8 Blende 1 µm Pixelgrösse | Quad-Pixel-Technologie für 2 µm Quad PDAF Optische Bildstabilisierung (OIS) 13 MP Kamera mit Ultra-Weitwinkelobjektiv (120° Sichtfeld) Macro Vision f/2.2 Blende 1,12 µm Pixelgrösse PDAF 10 MP Teleobjektiv 3x optischer Zoom f/2.0 Blende 1,0 µm Pixelgrösse PDAF Optische Bildstabilisierung (OIS)
FP6:
50MP Sony Lytia 700C sensor, 1/1.56", 1.0μm pixel size Quadpixel Autofocus, 10 cm minimum focusing distance, time of flight sensor Up to 10x digital zoom Optical (OIS) image stabilization Ultra Wide camera: Image sensor: 13MP, 1/3.06", 1.12μm pixel size ƒ2.2 5 elements Autofocus, Macro Mode, 2.5cm minimum focusing distance, time of flight sensor Electronic (EIS) image stabilization
But I am no expert, I'm sure there are differences due to software.
Hey, thanks!
I didn't think to check HW specs. Not very clever.
so ... thanks. again :))
My pleasure!
Ah damn, I messed up the formatting, but I think the info is discernible. They seem to be similar
But not comparing the FP6's camera with other phones: How happy are you with yours? Do you like the photos?
I'm not one for taking pictures, so I can't really comment on that, sorry.
What I can say, compared to my previous phone (Iphone 14), is that the front camera is a little worse than that of the Iphone 14. I notice it during Video Calls.
Not camera specific, but it's maybe worth mentioning that it sometimes also runs into small issues. For example it will sometimes not connect to my WiFi and I'll have to restart the phone in order for it to connect again. Not a big issue, since it restarts quite fast, but for someone coming from a well established phone brand it might be a little irritating. (And it also might just be a problem for me specifically)
But these downsides are well worth it (for me) in order to have a more privacy focused mobile and also not be supporting big American Tech Companies.
Just rip the band aid off and go for Jolla. Keep your current phone as a backup if some apps break
I'm seriously looking at it now. I don't give a shit about banking apps or the "socials" so that's fine. I do want a decent camera though.
Camera is a big deal for me.
Is jolla that good? Paying a subscription isn't the end of the world to me, as long as they are actually using the money for good, you know?
Define good? I mean if you look at the work they've been doing over the past decade, as such a tiny company, it's objectively awesome (sheer size, but also quality)! But I myself turned away from the first Jolla phones frustrated from all the kinks that were never fixed (in that time frame while that hardware was still viable - some were probably fixed in the meantime, some not). The experience remains a compromise: you get freedom from Big Tech, but you do not get several other things you've been taking for granted, because of Big Tech. Just one example, you can run Android apps, but if your phone has a fingerprint sensor (the last Jolla community phone didn't), Android apps can't use it. There is the camera issue that I mentioned (Jolla is not a camera company). It's always something, so you have to be okay with that if you want Jolla or Sailfish OS. But I will still mention that it is the most mature, full-featured mobile Linux out of all the mobile Linux efforts that have sprung up these past years. Jolla was first, and they remain ahead of the curve in this space.
Couldn't tell you, because they refuse to sell them in my country. 😡
I like Fairphone, it's definitely a phone. But I couldn't tell a difference between phones anymore.
Maybe an old Xperia? There is official support for unlocking the devices from SONY.