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I'm fine with civil discourse, even with some unsavory opinions. Not so fine with people spreading blatant misinformation and propaganda. There needs to be decent moderation for this, which as I understand, Odysee seems to fail at.
As @dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone is pointing out, commitment to (absolute) free speech tends to attract Nazis. And by Nazis I mean, actual, literal Nazis, not just people who don't agree with me on soylent being a decent meal replacement.
Also, lets never forget that (absolute) free speech would also cover allowing "theoretical" discussion on how to manipulate, groom and kidnap children for certain purposes etc. How to "theoretically" build bombs. How to "theoretically" drug and kill people etc. You might not be persecuted for having these "theoretical" discussions, which is fine but I think it's healthy for any online space to remove such topics.
Yeah, and? You think those things shouldn't' be available?
If someone does police work on those things, should that information not be available to the public as it inform the public?
You are basically claiming some forms of knowledge are too dangerous for people to know. Also, as soon as you start dictating what is 'misinformation' you are creating the problem where knowledge and truth are defined by a central authority, which comes with it's own systematic problems. The people in power of these censorship could easily decide that anti-Nazi rhetoric is misinformation as much as they could decide that Nazi-rehtoric is.
There is no free lunch. Information is free and it's dangerous, or it's suppressed, and that's dangerous as well.
I am a former teacher and academic. I taught philosophy, and plenty of people I have met think philosophy is evil and hateful and terrible and shouldn't exist. I think it's great and wonderful. Which of us should have our views censored and suppressed? Socrates was viewed as spreading misinformation, and sentenced to death for it. Do you think his works are misinformation?
That's a lot of logical fallacy from someone who claims to have been teaching philosophy.
Moderating blatant misinformation or bomb-making instructions does not inevitably lead to censoring valid political dissent. There is also a significant functional difference between Abstract Ideas (Socrates’ questioning of virtue) and Instructional Violations (blueprints for violence).
Equating moderating a privately run online space to making someone drink hemlock by the way of a state execution is a hell of a reach.
Nope. Never said that. I said "You might not be persecuted for having these “theoretical” discussions, which is fine...".
Who decides what misinformation and propaganda is? For example, you think that Soylent is a decent meal replacement and that talking about it is a harmless debate to have, but I'm of the opinion that it is actually very harmful to your health in the long-term and really shouldn't be advocated for in any way. (I'm serious, btw, this isn't rhetorical)
Who decides on the internet which of us is correct?
Hey I've been living on Soylent for years and I see my doctor regularly and take regular blood screenings and one of my doctors told me that my blood labs came back perfect and he said "whatever you're doing, keep doing it." He didn't know that I'm living on meal replacements. Meal replacements are for health fanatics, understandable that not everybody would want to eat this way. But nutritionally & convenience-wise, it really is superior to food. It provides all our essential nutrients in one easy place without having to compile recipes & go shopping & figure out nutrients & mathematics & chopping vegetables & cooking & cleaning dishes. Don't have to do any of that anymore! Perfect nutrition has never been so easy. We are living in the future. Don't knock it till you've tried it. And after you've tried it you probably won't knock it unless you can't handle how limited it might feel for you to live on meal replacements. It's for health fanatics. Not everybody's ready for that.
But for the last 10 years I've been able to frolic around in bikinis (am woman) and am athletically peak & I feel great & it's pretty much effortless because you are what you eat, and meal replacements are perfect nutrition with no stress, no effort.
I lived off Soylent for a while, and it was in part the cause of NAFLD for me. I really strongly recommend against it, it is highly processed and has questionable nutrient bioavailability.
Well I started with Soylent powder in 2017, then they introduced their bottled ready-to-drink option which was great until circa 2019 they started cheaping out on ingredients & their sweetener so I switched to different brands finally landing on Jimmy Joy which is from the Netherlands. Jimmy Joy sells M.R. powders & bars & even savory soups all in a variety of flavors, and the affordability is excellent.
There's a difference between saying "I think X, and Here's Why: Proof" and "YOU SHOULD NEVER CONSUME X IT WILL KILL YOU"