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MJ calls what happened to her in Zion national park “small ‘T’ trauma”. She knows women have experienced worse from their partners. But she still feels the anger of being left behind on a hike by her now ex. “It brings up stuff in my body that maybe I have not cleared out yet,” she said.

Five years ago, MJ and a new partner – he was not exactly her boyfriend, and the pair were not exclusive – traveled from Los Angeles to Utah for an adventure getaway. MJ, who is 38 and works in PR, was looking forward to exploring Zion’s striking scenery; its vast sandstone canyon and pristine wading trails were on the list. But on the morning of their big hike, MJ was not feeling well. She could not shake the feeling that something was “off”; indeed, MJ would learn on this trip that her partner was seeing other women.

As they made their way up Angel’s Landing, MJ’s partner started walking faster than her. “I could tell it was getting on his nerves that I was slow,” she said. “I was like, ‘Fuck it, just go ahead of me.’” He did without hesitation.

When she caught up at the top of the mountain, they took a picture together. Then her partner hiked down the mountain with a woman he had met on the way up, leaving MJ to finish by herself. They broke up shortly after that trip. (MJ asked to be referred to by her initials for the sake of speaking openly about a past relationship.)

Last month, MJ opened TikTok and heard the phrase “alpine divorce”, a label she now attaches to her experience in Zion.

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

shitty men are more attractive than not shitty men, because shitty men are willing to do whatever it takes to get the girl, and then dump her on a mountain top.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

shitty men are also really good at hiding how shitty they are, until they stop hiding it.. and what a more perfect place to stop hiding it, than in the middle of no where with few witnesses.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

so are shitty women.

most shitty people aren't going to be shitty in public, they wait until you are in a vulnerable moment.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

most shitty people aren't going to be shitty in public, they wait until you are in a vulnerable moment.

Yeah they do. Ive known abuse from a few different, expierences, and it is always covert abuse. Kind people in front of others, mean/cruel behind closed doors. That how it can go on for so long and people can get trapped in these kinds of relationships. Sucks.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, and it's how you get gaslit. Because everyone else thinks they are so wonderful, so if you think there is an issue, it must be you that is problematic one...

people focus way way too much on superficial bullshit. I had a few friends who fell into that trap and had super abusive partners, and I myself fell into it, thankfully not as badly though. And the abusers frame the entire think as your fault. If only you'd listen to them and make them happy, then they wouldn't' have to hit you...

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lmao, I think most shitty people tend to be pretty fucking obvious. That's sort of why people have common red flags. Like not dating people who talk down to others or who badmouth servers or who vote Republican. Because those warning signs don't usually come out of nowhere, but I will grant that sometimes, rarely, shitty people do hide themselves.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't think they are obvious at all.