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It's so cute when people who have never authentically considered another perspective weigh in on what leftists think and why.
Can you do people who can't afford cancer treatment next?
the medical system in the US is fucked because the system doesn't actually care about the health of the people; obviously that sucks idk what you expect me to say
I wonder what system people are increasingly upset about that doesn't care about people's health, but instead enriching the wealthiest people in the country?
i'd say it's christianity or the concept of natural law that's historically been pushed by christianity.
it roughly says that there are natural laws that are derived from god (i.e. unchangeable circumstances) and are therefore unchangeable themselves. they typically revolve around (political/military) power being the center and origin of all law; it roughly corresponds to the nazi principle "might makes right" which says that if you're too weak, you have to adhere to stronger people's rules.
that historically influenced US politics a lot. that's why you have the modern concept of "when people are 60 years old and they get sick from cancer, well that's natural and therefore good and therefore we shouldn't do anything about it." i think that's the major influence, not so much about shareholder value.
in fact medical companies would make a shitton of money if they treated every disease. it's actually hurting the economy that the US does not spend more money on social healthcare. but ideology seems to be more important to the US government in this case.
edit: eh after reading the above wikipedia article it speaks mostly about the medieval concept of natural law but that's not how the term is used these days. these days the term natural law mostly refers to things such as anarchy (as it's used by the media) and doing away with a (human-made-rules)-based world order. in other words "eat shit, be free" but for politicians.
it's used like this: "i am a politician. i want to suppress other people. because i have this natural urge, surely it must be a natural thing to do. that's why i do it". while things that would limit this behavior such as democratically elected laws and human-made laws such as the legal system are ignored because they are "not natural and therefore not to be taken too seriously". trump is the best example of this.
Our economic system is not Christianity.
You really don't know why we have lobbyists pouring money into Congress to prevent us from having universal healthcare? You think it's all religious, and in no way related to the parasite class rent seeking in the most depraved way possible?
Yeah. I bet it's because Jeebus.
Thanks for sharing your perspective, you've clearly spent a "lot" of "time" "thinking" about "this."
turn the question the other way around and ask yourself what motivates people to seek money beyond what a single person can spend. there's no short-term benefit in it so i argue there must be a long-term trajectory behind it. what is that and what do you call it?
Capitalism.
but then again what motivates capitalism?
anyways my point was that it speaks to some natural inclinations for some people such as greed and stuff, and why did those develop evolutionarily? because they put the people who had the traits at an advantage.
anyways religion imho is mostly a codification of the natural traits of people (called "natural law" as pointed out by my other comment somewhere in this thread), while also using some tricks to smoothen some edges. so capitalism is a direct consequence of it. and that's why i would say that yes, very much are the congreemen's decisions are in fact motivated by religion.
So even in your convoluted, roundabout way you still can't get around implicating capitalism.
Here's a hint: it doesn't matter what excuses people give.
They expect you to regurgitate Marxist or libertarian socialist rhetoric. Or at least social democratic rhetoric. Because that will show that you're the right kind of person with the right kind of ideas. Whether or not it will accomplish anything is another matter. I'm not sure they care about that. I mean, they probably care about it, but they care about ideological purity more.