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Trump killed school girls
Let's not forget who specifically ordered this war to be started. All headlines should start with Trump ordered children to be murdered or Trump is getting people killed or Trump has raised oil prices and people are beginning to starve or Trump closed off shipping lanes
He has raped school girls too. I need to replace the pic inside the helmet to one with both Jeff and Don in it.
Yes, but don't give the soldiers that pulled the trigger a pass. They're legally required to not follow illegal orders. All of them should be court marshalled and charged with war crimes.
It’s unclear to me whether they would have known about this. I presume cross checking the targets should be done at each level down to the person pulling the trigger.
Is it confirmed that everyone in the chain knew?
Compartmentalization. They get told "here is an Iranian military target, hit it". So they do. Asking questions is strongly discouraged.
What are you basing that off of?
I suppose I don't know. I should rephrase that whoever knew and ordered it should be in the hot seat. Word is that it was old target data they were going on. That by itself is a failure if true, which isn't excusable. I'd be interested in when that school was built or transitioned to a school and the age of the data. This may be the result of a pedophile and his hair trigger war drive that meant due diligence wasn't done.
For what? How could they possibly know that it was a school? They aren't privy to the intel. They are on a boat or a base, maybe hundreds of miles away. They receive an order to fire on a location and follow the order.
That's exactly what they signed up for. Grunt work. Following orders.
I rephrased in a follow up to someone else's comment. The people that ordered the strike on old Intel should be charged. There were failures in the process, and those responsible should be held responsible.
Yes, they should be charged. But they won't be charged, because the executive branch is the very branch that runs law enforcement and the military. Why would they give themselves a black eye?
Right. They don't know anything at all about what they're shooting at all because it's abstract and viewed through computer screen.
However they do know that the these orders are coming down from three possible sources. 1. Targeting specialists using enshitified useless AI services. 2. Chatbots themselves or 3. Child raping genocide mongers.
Which why they just shouldn't do it. Go to the brig. Sabotage the missile with a fork lift accident. Fake illness. Anything. I don't care, do whatever you have to do to not be party to this monstrous thing that's trying to burn the world down so Jesus will come back. And that's why they are still responsible for it.
Nope, the United States of America.
You’re responsible for who you elect.
Despite my town, my county, my state all voting strongly against the shitstain in the white house, you're right. And it's fucking embarrassing. US voters are, collectively, the worst.
Not saying there's not a bunch of maga morons fucking shit up, but if you think we have free and fair elections in the US, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Nobody cares, everyone will still associate you with this.
Sincerely: a Hungarian
Ah yes, "Everybody from a place is as bad as the worst people from that place."
Wow, with that logic, I guess you're all Viktor Orbán. How's that feel? Fair?
I suppose attacking Iran was okay then, because everybody there is Khamenei.
Surely, we're on the road to ending global conflict and understanding each other as people now! /s
Emotionally labelling an entire people by their power-lusting "leaders" is the first step to dehumanizing each other and shooting each others' families at their whim. We can be better than this.
You've misinterpreted why they stated they are Hungarian.
They're identifying what they've experienced from interactions with another country's people as a Hungarian with Viktor Orban in charge.
I'm open to this interpretation. If that's what they were going for then I didn't mean to be too aggressive. Thanks for bringing this up. <3
The context of the entire chain is holding people accountable for what their leaders did. HK65 seems okay with that and is very much in a position to not be throwing stones if we judge others on this.
They're not throwing stones. They're identifying with the helpless predicament many people under terrible regimes feel.
HK65 would like to change Hungary, but they can't, but know people on the outside still expect they will change the system though.
The key word is "sincerely". That turns the message from a dismissal of the nuance of how democratic a system is, to an understanding that people in other nations in a sense flatten the countries internal fights between regime supporters and opponents.
I mean, what are they supposed to do now? (other than kill themselves or become a martyr)
A lot of people aren't gonna be willing to up and die for a cause, and I don't feel comfortable telling anyone who isn't willing to die potentially pointlessly that they're bad people
Another thing is that people don't seem to understand how ingrained bigotry is in America. I actually am willing to die for democracy, but I'm black and female. Me getting gunned down in the street by ICE wouldn't even make local news because Americans are trained to disacknowledge the person-hood of anyone who isn't an ablebodied cishet white man. I won't have died "for the cause", I'd have died to fill an empty hole in the ground.
Not necessarily saying that I and others aren't willing to, just that it'll be a lot more like throwing ourselves into a meatgrinder than like being hung on a cross.
I don't doubt it. Just offering a piece of factual information. If it doesn't mean anything to you, then there's not much I can do about that.
Edit: Oh right, Orbán. You're commiserating lmao. Well. Yup. Sorry, friend.
They’ve worked fine for Republican voters, who have elected lunatics for years using them.
They’re trying real hard to take those rights away, to the point they’ll tamper with and just stop them.
Voting must have something going for it.
"Average Germans weren't Nazis!" energy
I mean, do you actually believe every German was a Nazi?
It's totally up to him, notwithstanding what people he talks to and Fox News tell him what to think.
He is surrounded by yes men who actually tried to dissuade him from attacking Iran, but still support his every demented decision.
Nobody wants to do this. It's only him. /s
There is a thing called impeachment. Trump gave enough causes. It's the majority of the US elite who wants this war or they would remove him.
Unfortunately, it's not entirely up to Trump. Iran isn't going to back down just because Trump is all* "Oh, jk, lol!" *
160 Iranian schoolgirls were killed by an American missile strike. Trump is still in denial. How do you suppose that sits with the Iranian people?
He's a piece of shit everyone already knows it. I think less talk about him is better. He's a tool of the party, this doesn't end with him.
I think this is probably to a degree correct.
Nobody talks about Project 2025 anymore. Apparently the administration went right through that step by step, Heritage Foundation wasn't built for Trump, but he did deliver them a lot of what they wanted. I find it hard to believe these Republicans associate themselves with Heritage foundation yet are that unhappy when that plan is in large portions delivered.
A lot of people wonder why the Republicans don't push back more, usually putting it down to fear of being primaried. I can't help thinking a lot of the talk about Republican lawmaker's anger and hate directed towards the US President in the Capitol are crocodile tears, and they're just saving face while they wave through the destructive changes they've always argued for.
No thanks.
The US did this. This began in like 1908. Trump wasn’t even born yet. The USA is an evil empire and needs to be ripped out root and branch. Capitalism has to go.
None of this will be fixed without a revolution so bloody Mao would be uncomfortable and the glassing of Israel.
Oh, my. The US is so very, very far away from a revolution. The citizens are hopelessly outgunned. The police have been militarizing since the 80s, and there's always the Army/National Guard if things get really wild.
Further, the people who are most likely to call for revolution are the least likely to own firearms or have military training. MAGA is armed to the teeth - the Dems and progressives, not so much.
So, I'm afraid you'll have to choose Door #2 - a slow descent into authoritarianism and fascism. (But at least ICE can provide "security" for our "fair and free" elections.)