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[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 109 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Luckily google would never do the same to android /s

https://keepandroidopen.org/

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Its still cheaper to publish on the play store (one time fee of $25), and iirc apks would still be installable with adb anyway.

Still a shitty thing to do

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

One time fee sure, and then they close your account for not pushing updates frequently enough....

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm triggered.

Writing a privacy policy for an entirely off-line app was endlessly frustrating.

And it's crazy that there is no validation of the policy, you can say what you want and then do anything you like...

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's just not worth the effort. You'll find out they have change their policies on something, and you'll have to fix your app to suit. It's an endless churn of busywork

[–] Alberat@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

and they started requiring government id in the us

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My (admittedly limited) understanding is that the ID requirements aren’t entirely their fault. Know Your Customer laws have started requiring things like IDs, so it’s likely that lawmakers are to blame for that gripe.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

even in the EU? that's a bit hard to believe

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you think the EU is immune to money laundering? Because that’s what KYC laws are meant to prevent. The EU absolutely has KYC laws to prevent money laundering.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

but this is an app store, and their own policy, not a bank or other financial institution

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Step 1: Make a small, basic app. Include lots of in-app purchases for no reason.
Step 2: Use dirty money to buy those in-app purchases.
Step 3: Receive washed money from the App Store, minus the ~20% commission that the store takes.
Step 4: That’s it. You’re done. You’ve successfully laundered money in the App Store.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

this fails at step 2. you can't pay from your google account. you need google to send that money to your bank or paypal account. and at that point, you already have KYC.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Honestly, that's great, but you might as well cut to the chase and switch ROMs as well. Google isn't going to budge.

[–] HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you don't care about installing any particular mobile software, that would work.

LineageOS is the current game in town otherwise, unless you want a Pixel, in which case there's options like GrapheneOS.

[–] HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, to some extent: waydroid actually works quite well, if you don't mind their security issues, a few apps also work with android translation layer. My main troubles are actually with virtual keyboards: there's nothing as good as heliboard so far, although the new plasma keyboard with custom layouts is usable

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Interesting. I've tried Linux phones, they're not a bad idea per se. It looks like Waydroid is literally just emulating LineageOS, though, so I do start to wonder what the point is.

I suppose one advantage would be you can actually hack your system a bit, instead of having everything locked into the ROM.

It's more like a chroot, not exactly emulation. The point, at least for me, used to be that some apps for android have better ux than their Linux counterparts (mostly newpipe vs freetube and antennapod vs kasts), but since both of those work reasonably well in ATL, I don't really use it much now.

Compared to lineage, I quite like being able to run desktop software as well; nix is a godsend here, since they compile many packages for arm64 as well as x86. Although, to be fair, I haven't tried running nixos in chroot alongside android; mb a viable option as well