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CGI shouldn't win cinematography or even special effects awards.
Both of those things used to be collaborative skills. Multiple people working together to make a great composition on the screen. (director, cinematographer, set designer, costumer, prop-maker, foley artist, actor, etc...)
A great shot in CGI requires a computer and rendering time. It's not the same.
If you can do everything with a computer, than none of your special effects are special by definition.
Oh...You've got spiderman framed above buildings high in the sky in Into the Spider Verse? Great...cool shot...but took nothing to actually create it.
If you tell me that to get that shot you had professional stunt people doing wire work, a complex camera rig, two helicopters and high-speed camera? THAT is the special in special effect.
Made it in a computer? It's meaningless.
Artists
They need (3D) artists, gramps.
Oh I'm not saying there isn't skill involved. There's obviously artistic skill involved.
But there's already awards for that kind of thing. It's a completely different skill set completely removed from the collaborative nature of film-making and film special effects.
One person sitting behind a computer, no matter how skilled, isn't the same as a team working in tandem to create something awe inspiring.
You clearly dont know enough about how pipeline to make good 3d effects goes.
You cant just toss enough money and time to make good CGI scene. The director needs to understand how the effects work and how design the scene with that in mind. There is huge amount of work to make sure the real parts in the scene work with the CGI parts. It needs just as much planning, story boarding and collaborations between the different groubs than any other special effect shot needs. The lighting needs to match, the eye lines of the actors need to match. Any time when there is contact between real things and 3d modeled things it needs to be planned shot by shot to make it work. Even full CGI scenes need to be planned how they stransit in to ot from the real footage.
If you think special effects are just high speed pursuits or stunt men doing wire work, you really are selling the whole VFX industry short.