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[–] whiskybourbon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Jesse is what killed it for me. He was tolerable and even decent in the first season but after that I just started to increasingly loathe him more and more until the point I couldn't even stomach the idea of watching another episode. I loved everything else about the show too so it's unfortunate.

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Jesse's supposed to be a complete dipshit but he has a really good redemption by the end in my opinion

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That was my problem with the show too.

Smart person decides to cook meth...

Step 1: Partner with complete dipshit

Step 2:

Step 3: Profit

It's not hard to cook meth especially if you have a science background.

EVERYTHING in the show is there to make cooking meth harder because if it wasn't hard it would be a completely boring story.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The reason Smart Person needed to partner up with Complete Dipshit is because he needed Complete Dipshit's underground connections to 1) acquire some controlled substances using less than legal methods, and 2) to sell what he's cooked up. Jesse wasn't there to help with manufacturing, he was there to help with logistics. Walter couldn't have done those on his own because not even the best chemistry departments at the bestest universities teach you how to steal precursor drugs or cold call psychotic drug lords for exciting new business opportunities.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're telling me that it is a requirement to be a Complete Dipshit to have underground connections?

I get that is how the show sold it and I guess you believed it

There's just no way for Walt to become Heizenberg without Complete Dipshit

Let's just ignore the fact that the writer planned the Complete Dipshit to die a handful of episodes into the series

Again, EVERYTHING in the show is designed to make cooking/distributing meth challenging. They had to make Complete Dipshit useful because he "had" to be in the story.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Its not a requirement to be a complete dipshit to have underground connections. But the one complete dipshit that Walter knew did have those underground connections, so he probably didn't think to keep looking for someone else. Walter was a high school science teacher with no friends, how would he have gone about looking for someone to sell meth for him?

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"The story happened that way so that's the only way it could have happened"

Walter was a high school science teacher with no friends, how would he have gone about looking for someone to sell meth for him?

Once again everything is stacked against Walt. Always another road block. Episode after episode.

They had to give him a complete dipshit to work with because a semi-competent person he knew would have been a "boring" story.

Maybe show interest in the DEA and ride around with his brother-in-law to secretly collect intel. Ends up getting a job for the DEA but basically an inside guy.

Let me go find the drop out high school student I knew and cook meth in an RV. Is definitely not a thing an intelligent person would choose to do. Sure if they are forced to like in the story, but that doesn't make it right or enjoyable.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Idk the original seems more plausible than getting a job with the DEA as an inside guy and cooking meth on the side with cartels lol

But what the heck do I know about real life meth producers

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You want a more plausible storyline than anything else? You like Breaking Bad because the storyline is realistic?

A smart guy infiltrating the DEA and using their information in a cat and mouse game sounds interesting to me

It's a fictional story

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right it's fiction, anything goes. There's nothing wrong with it as is then.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's some sound logic right there

You convinced me Breaking Bad is perfect

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You know what's funny is the story happened that way not because it was the only way it could happen. They originally had Jesse pinkman's death planned for the end of season 1 he was supposed to be killed by Walt. But he ended up being a fan favorite character and they kept him on.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Of course the story didn't have to happen in any specific way. It's a fictional story. It can be written in anyway. Doesn't even have to be realistic

Walt could have had to make a rocket so he could transport meth to the moon because Tuco is on a moon base and really wants some.

From my 2.5ish season watching experience, Pinkmen was the only character I enjoyed from the show. I'm not saying that I hated his character or acting. But the premise that Walt was with Pinkman to begin with. The whole show hinges on that idea and Pinkman becomes more and more important to the show.

Breaking Bad doesn't have many "likable" characters but it is a basic story about the characters.

A story with an amazing plot would still be good with subpar actors. Breaking Bad with worse actors would be totally insufferable.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 3 weeks ago

My bro in christ no, the criminal meth distribution network is not easy

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For me it was Skyler, I know she's not supposed to be likeable but that doesn't excuse it for me.

I hate her character and she makes the show just unpleasant for me.

I did finish breaking bad though, about it being the best show of all time is not something I agree with. it's alright

[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think Skyler is pretty universally disliked. I thought the kid was annoying too which pretty much undermines the whole premise of the show.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Whaaat? Walter White Jr. is the best character hands down

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I didn't mind the kid too much, I think it helps the plot because it becomes easier to see that for Walter it's all about his ego

His kid also contrasts Jesse who's basically the child Walter always wanted, witty and smart in ways Walter isn't.

[–] q181c@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Same. His character just kept getting more and more annoying the whole time I watched.