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Might want to flip back, because you've been bamboozled.
"In fact, a spokesperson at Henry Ford Health told journalists seeking comment on the study that it “was not published because it did not meet the rigorous scientific standards we demand as a premier medical research institution.”
The organization that actually did the study believed that it was flawed for multiple reasons:
"the study’s main comparisons are tilted. The follow-up time was short and uneven, kids had unequal chances for diagnosis, and the two groups were very different in ways that matter. The methods used did not adequately fix these problems. Because of this, the differences reported in the study do not show that vaccines cause chronic disease."
Jesus, making people anti-science whackos is as easy as a spiffy looking site and video huh.
There are several criticisms I could make to the methodology and other parts of this study (and there are LOTS to make here). But let's for a moment assume it is correct, let's imagine that vaccines really do cause a 250% risk increase to ADHD or asthma. Even if that were true (which it isn't, for example: almost every person diagnosed with ADHD has an undiagnosed parent with it too, leading to the conclusion that it's not that the cases have increased but that diagnosis has.) vaccines would be a GREAT idea. The study doesn't go into details (because it's trying to make the data prove what they want instead of analysing it) but let's look at one single vaccine, and compare this single vaccine with the whole of the accumulated hypothetical dangers of vaccines. Let's talk about the BCG.
BCG is the vaccine that prevents tuberculosis, also known as white death or consumption. Before vaccines TB accounted for 25% of all deaths in Europe, this means that for every 4 people who died, one of them was by TB. Do you think COVID was bad? COVID was only 6% of deaths at it's peak. But hey, maybe you don't believe in COVID, let's compare it to actual numbers, in 2018 (before the pandemic) approximately 8.1 million people died in Europe, of those only 259,000 were TB, if we subtract those we get 7.76 million, scaling that back to pre-vaccine days that takes us to 2.6 million deaths per year related to TB (there's probably some overlap of people's who died of other stuff and would have died of TB in that hypothetical scenario, but still) even being very generous that's an extra 1 million deaths. 1 million preventable deaths per year in exchange for a few extra cases of asthma and ADHD seems like a goods exchange. Also have you stopped to consider that maybe since people don't die of TB they live long enough to have asthma diagnosed?
Is it easy to distance yourself from the dead children caused by these exact beliefs?