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Gen Z males twice as likely as baby boomers to believe wives should obey husbands
(www.theguardian.com)
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Abort yourself, fuckstick.
Hey look an essentialist pissant who doesn't know what social factors are. How's that spot next to the likes of Rowling? Ah who am I kidding youre probably incapable of introspection meaning my insults and flyts are wasted on ya.
Do you got a solution? Or are we just going to flood them with more 'man bad' buzzwords tonkeep pushing them away? These people are going to get us killed and there is no solution.
As a man I can tell you the solution sure as shit isn't to abort any male fetuses that's for fucken sure. If I was younger I'd probably call you an SJW but frankly speaking I think you're just an idiot.
As for actual solutions. Relatively simple, improve material conditions and put a bullet into freaks like Rogan, Carlson, and Peterson. The fact of the matter is that this has happened in the past, it happened during at least the French revolution and during the rise of fascism in the 1920s and 1930s. The solution to both at least in the pre-war period is to improve economic and material conditions, fascism got gutted here in the states due to the new deal and Napoleon granted enough stability and improvements to snub a lot of problems.
Is it a satisfying answer? Fuck no. But sadly most people don't have an all encompassing hatred for cultists and incompetents that broke me out of the gamergate sphere. Turns out my hatred for Trump is genetic or at least so engraved into my person hood so as to have no definitive difference.
Okay, fine. I calmed down, but the fact is these people exist because they are the men that both sides seem to talk about the most. We cannot beat them by focusing so much on them. And your solution is something I doubt will ever happen.
Bread and circuses wasn't just a way for the Romans to keep their population docile, it was how they prevented the empire from collapsing in on itself centuries before the fall of the Western half of Rome. Point is that improved material conditions would help to weaken this movement, probably won't kill it since plenty of it is based in cults like Mormonism and modern Evangelical Christianity but it could stimmy the flow.
But yeah in many ways the cat is out of the bag and we are firmly in damage control now. I also do agree that focusing on those already within such groups is pretty much worthless, best place to start is to talk to kin, kith, and clan about it and try to prevent it from happening in the first place. Mind you this won't stop it from happening but you may be able to redirect their rage towards the politicians and rich bastards who have created our modern material conditions through their greed.
Yeah, but it feels like we have to work against our own side for that to happen. Because at best a liberal man can do is be 'one of the good ones' and that shit is pretty is isoating when all gender discussion is focused on the worst of men.
Boys are effectively told they can only be monsters by both sides. Not a day goes by there is another study about how awful men are. Or some influencer tells them it's okay to be a monster.
And that is it. No other message.
And I keep hearing about the need of a 'liberal Joe Rogan'. But I can think of a few people who might fit that mold, but no one actually wants to talk about them. But we sure give Tate a lot of attention.
Yeah I don't even know how we would go forward on that front. I'm pretty traditionalist amongst my kin but the problem is that still puts me as a progressive in larger society since it aligns me with union men, anti-authoritarians, and anit-assimilationists which is to say I'm a stereotype for pre-ww2 American Scots who somehow exists in the modern period.
Personally I do think there may be a way forward with that though I'm a tad bit tired typing this out since it's 3 in the morning but still. Basically use traditional aesthetics to push progressive causes, sorta a shieldmadens, beer, and unions type of thing IDK. My brain is currently poisoned by my current EUV Frisia run so all I can think of is spamming privateers everywhere.
Yeah, but I feel like a lot of those things are tainted in the same way norse runes are.
They're only tainted so far as you let them be tainted. Purify them with the blood of fascists if that's what it takes, hell the skull and crossbones has been used by pirates, Prussians, anarchists, and Nazis. Maybe it could be stylized a bit differently, let ones own culture reshape it while keeping the core.
How can we do that though? I can see it if a dude with a skull and Nordic runes on their shirt brains an ice agent with a tomahawk. But we would be having a lot of other problems if it came to that.
Meld it with traditionally progressive symbols, though that'd take some effort it wouldn't be too difficult so long as you effectively ran it by committee. For example something along the lines of having "Bash a Fash" in English, "Blòt them fast" in Futhark. Like I said it would take some effort but it could work, kinda like how quite a few Hellenic Neo-Pagans are explicitly progressive while Ultra-Orthadox eastern Orthodoxy is usually fascistic.
Mind you this does require some level of large scale action it shouldn't be too hard at least here in the US. Most modern fascists, reactionaries, and conservatives wrap themselves in the cross so what better way than invoking Christendoms last large pagan foe.
Just a hypothetical example I've thought of, if protesting a mega church or Bible thumper dress up as a bunch of vikings and invoke Lindisfarne. Show up in a pick up with daneaxe in one hand a protest sign/shield in another, IDK just spitting ideas. Like I said it would have to be consistent and careful so as to not invite the wrong types on accident.
Also it'd be funny to sue the cops for taking a daneaxe on religious grounds.