Plugable hybrids are a good compromise, when people remember to actually plug them in and run on electric when they don't need to travel long distances.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

They also have the worst of both worlds shoved together

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They also have the best of both worlds shoved together, when used in an ideal general case situation. Zero emissions for urban use, emissions limited only on the very occasional when needed, and even then if it has enough stops to call EVs viable, you are going to get a significant reduction in emissions if you plug along the way.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Range extender hybrids are the goat

The combustion engine can always run at optimal rpm for torque and the drivetrain is 100% electric

A LOT simpler to construct too, it’s basically an EV with a built in generator

[–] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They'd be the best compromise for me. I usually drive short distances in the city, but maybe once or twice a year I want to do the 800km journey back to my home city in the next province. Train travel isn't an option.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have a similar situation and I just rent a car for those twice a year trips 🤷 Still cheaper than paying for gas

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Literally impossible, given you have to pay for the gas of those rentals plus however long you keep them until you get back.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I pay 0€ for gas all year long, electricity is currently 0,0187€/kWh

The money I save from that equation easily pays for a rental twice a year.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You'd be paying even less with a plug-in electric hybrid.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How? Mind you that gasoline is 2€/litre here and electricity costs next to nothing.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

You pay the same as an EV when moving around locally (just the electricity cost) and only have to bother paying for gasoline when going long distances instead of having to also pay for the cost of renting the vehicle.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd rather not have to deal with a petrol/diesel engine than go long distances, but saying that is a bit of a non issue to go a long distance in an EV in Europe.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's called privilege.