MeanwhileOnGrad
"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether it be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users, as it handwaves their extremism.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post, rather than engaging in arguments that lack mutual agreement.
Brigading/Trolling — If you're here because this community was linked in another thread, please refrain from maliciously voting, commenting, or manipulating the post in any way. This includes alt accounts. All votes are public, and if you are found to be brigading, you will be banned. Good-faith and honest communication is an exception.
Tankies can explain their views, but may be criticised or challenged for them. Any minor infraction of the rules may result in a warning and possibly a temporary ban.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically last only 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction doubles the duration. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
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.ml doesn't have the most active communities since a few years
!asklemmy@lemmy.world is much more active than !asklemmy@lemmy.ml , !fediverse@lemmy.world is much more active than !fediverse@lemmy.ml
For the few remaining, there are usually alternatives, e.g. !privacy@lemmy.ml , but !privacy@programming.dev is a valid alternative
The current system is flawed. This system will always carry its foundational weaknesses. Your counterexamples are examples of the dissection you have to force, never mind that it does not address the problem at the user level.
Nobody had to force !asklemmy@lemmy.world to overcome !asklemmy@lemmy.ml , it just happened organically as LW grew its userbase
Could they remain in !asklemmy@lemmy.ml and continue to participate in !asklemmy@lemmy.world? If not, then they had to force themselves to begin posting and commenting elsewhere. For casual users, it is organic because they just go to the Active listings, but the dissection is still there. Hunting for minutiae like this and how you can redefine things into other things does not address the elephant in the room.
They've got linux hostage though 😢
Problem is, I've heard, that .ml and .world share funding and isn't .dev tankie ridden too? Either that or it's full of AI bros, I could be wrong.
Ml and world definitely don't share funding, and .dev isn't tankie ridden as far as I know