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That's likely wise. I played Civ 5 before any expansions and it was bad. So bad that it turned me off Civ games and I haven't played one since. I'm sure they eventually figured it out, but I should have waited.
Same for Diablo 3. Played through the whole game to the endgame on release, waiting for it to be fun. It never was. Went back to PoE, Last Epoch, and others. I hear the expansion made it pretty good, but I've moved on. Diablo 4 isn't as bad as D3, based on what I played in free play weekends, but it's still a subpar Diablo-style game. It's a shame they didn't pursue Diablo 3 before they lost all the devs from Blizzard North that worked on D2. I played thousands of hours of D2, and I'm sad we'll never get a true Diablo successor using the IP.
For what it's worth, the final version of Civ V with the expansions is for me the best game in the franchise, even better than Civ IV. Maybe you should give it another chance.
I've been playing Civ games since III shortly before IV came out and they all seem to follow this pattern. VI was a mess on release, but now it's actually pretty good though not as good as V.