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[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 15 points 13 hours ago (3 children)
[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'd take an alternative if you've got one. Otherwise, unless there's a serious change for the worse, I'm probably going to keep posting them. Sorry!

[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Here's your alternative:

https://web.archive.org/web/20260219185525/https://www.theverge.com/tech/881352/mastodon-default-server-recommendations-experiment

unless there's a serious change for the worse, I'm probably going to keep posting them. Sorry!

How is highjacking your traffic to maliciously DDOS someone without your consent not a "serious change for the worse" ...???

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You know that's not a real alternative. I wish it was -- it'd make all of this a hell of a lot easier to navigate. But it just isn't.

[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I really, genuinely, no sarcasm, do not understand why it's not a real alternative.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

This is what I see?

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

Scroll down. Archive.today can archive things other services can't. That's why Wikipedia was in a panic about the verifiability crisis removing their 700 000 links would cause. Most can't be replaced.

Okay, I'm just gonna explain where I'm at with this right now and why.

This isn't a huge issue for this community but for our hard news discussion communities, abandoning archive.today would instantly make a large amount of news inaccessible (probably 1/3 or more, but that's just a guess) to the vast majority. It could limit being fully informed to those with means. That would suck. It's a real harm.

We're in agreement that archive.today is problematic. We really need a working alternative. The ddos attack is shitty and immature. It's a betrayal of trust. However, the victim stated in the Ars article you linked to that this hasn't really had any discernible impact on them. So for now it's a theoretical harm (and an abhorrent practice) vs a real harm.

For me, as it stands now, I'll use alternatives where I can and use archive.today where I can't because I care a lot about that harm. I'll be ecstatic when a real alternative emerges. Like Wikipedia fell into different camps, we're probably similar. I respect that you come down on this differently, but that's where I'm at with this.

[–] Dequei@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hmmm, thats why mullvad is blocking them?

[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think Mullvad is blocking anyone. I'm not sure if Archive . Today is still doing what they did in 2023, but if they are, it would be more correct to say Archive . Today is blocking you for using Mullvad's DNS servers.

[–] Dequei@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago

I can't access to archive websites with mullvad vpn activated, with the dns blocking everything.

[–] guilherme@cwb.social 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Because it doesn't always work with recent news and, as shown by dubyakay, it's not meant to bypass paywalls