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This solidifies my decision for migrating my account from there to piefed.social. Not because I support those views but because this means that many of the communities I’m subscribed to won’t be visible anymore from there. Personally I’ve not seen the problem in the mentioned communities but I also don’t actively participate in deep political discussions especially regarding Israel/Palestine since I don’t have the energy for that.
You know you can just have multiple accounts on multiple instances, right? That gets you just about as full a view on the Fediverse as you might want. Heck, the only reason I'm not doing it is because I'm lazy.
Also, whining about db0 then moving to the instance that literally implements CCP politics and shadow profiling and comes from a dev known to have had a chip against heteronormativity and weirdness (if not against neurodivergence) is... not the win you think it is.
so which fediverse platform dev isn't evil?
Heck if I know, but at least we know of the ones who are (eg.: feddit.org are "good German soldiers").
Yup that's the way to go. Actually my first client I used for Lemmy (Liftoff) made multiple accounts really easy since you could switch feeds and accounts in one click and quickly. But even if you just use multiple accounts on the web switching between tabs or using Tesseract isn't that difficult.
I know but I hate account jumping. I prefer to have everything in one place.
Oh that's absolutely understandable. The more with how bloated interfaces tend to be these days.
Just mind, you have to consider what does it mean for your instance to be open enough to serve you everything in one account.
Can you provide some sources for that?
Thank you. No wonder I haven't seen stuff like this if it's posted in meme communities.
It's been on the public fediverse eye enough that I don't need to do your homework for you, but just look for mentions to piefed in this same sub. One of the exemplary things that was found was that you can't eg.: "upload a picture that contains the word 'anonymous'" and that Piefed lies to you about why.
Okay great, you assume that everyone reads everything. I was just asking for examples because I haven't seen any and figured you must have seen some and can link them.
I have actually seen some influence agents pushing iran war and israel and such just lately. Usg must be expanding out to lemmy with their bs.
Showing your true colours here. By the way, it's not "political discussions regarding Israel/Palestine", call it by its name: genocide of Palestinians by Israel.
Yes the genocide of Palestinians is bad but I have only so much energy to care deeply about things in the world. I can't change anything about what is happening there, it's not in my power to do so.
Edit: And comments like yours are the reason why I usually abstain from participating in "political discussions". It's exhausting.
The point is to exhaust you down to the point you don't fight back.
Are you boycotting Israeli goods, media, and anything else that could give money to the Zionist entity? That's the bare minimum any person of conscience should do.
Yes, maybe that would do something but also as I said I can't care about everything to the fullest degree or be informed about everything because no one has that energy. For example I could ask you the same regarding veganism and the vast majority of people won't care about that (I care because every decision buying food, clothing and other things directly impacts the lives of animals for example).
I know people who work all the time and have energy. You have probably a mixture of privilege and exhaustion. We're talking about scanning some barcodes so you can help avoid preventing fellow human beings, including children, from being massacred.
I am a vegan lol
Am I privileged as a trans woman?
There are many easy things that add up and take up mental space and lead to exhaustion and empathy/compassion fatigue.
You know what I mean. Vegans are the vast minority among people.
More privileged than a Palestinian, hell yeah. So it's still your duty.
lol so you join the place with the social credit score
Oooh the irony!
What is that?
piefed.social keeps a hidden trust score that goes down when people do stuff the piefed dev personally doesn't like. there was recently a bunch of drama about it
Technically, it's an astrospam measure.
No they use something else for that, ie limit what new accounts can do.
The credit score is just doing things the dev doesn't like/shouldn't be done
https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/
There’s nothing in that post about ❝credit scores.❞ Karma is what threadiverse uses to evaluate posts, comments, communties, and accounts.
There is attitude and reputation
There is attitude and reputation
Yeah, did you not read why? How else do you want piefed to mitigate onetime spam accounts to sibyl downvote comments?
Do you read because that's unrelated to their spam protections.
The scores are for activities the dev doesn't like not for spam blocking.
Again: how would you mitigate against mass onetime accounts meant to downvote specific comments fascists have been using to silence others?
Because piefed believes monitoring the “attitude” of an account and “repudiating” it are the temporary measures for this behavior.
Lemmy just let's occur, wilfully aware it persists.
By not making a system that helps continue that exact behavior with a system that pushes people for being downvoted that exact way or don't interact with posts how the dev wants.
The functionality is exact opposite of what you want. It's empowering mass downvoting to silence others because that's how the system is designed.
Again it's not that's the guiding principle listed for how they want to have spaces and users behave.
And was your link to lemmy issues supposed to show something other than recent issues unrelated to the behavior?
It most certainly is.
So links to same page saying it's features made to do social media credit scores and then piefed issues?
What are you trying to say with that?
Jesus fuck.
It's literally just a number admins can use to sus out if a user might potentially be a toll. It's basically reddit karma but hidden from everyone but admins.
.ml users tried to make it a big deal because people were leaving lemmy for PieFed.
Reddit Karma is not good, I don't want a Karma system on the Fediverse. That was one of the worst things about Reddit. Karma is essentially ass-kissing points, you get them for kissing ass, and you loose them for making people butt-hurt.
I can't support that, it creates nasty psychological patterns that make people prone to siding with popularity and not with what's right.
You dont have a karma system on the fediverse, only admins can see it.
Individuals dont know what their score is, there is no benefit to them trying to farm it because they cant see or use it. There is no psychological pattern formed because its an admin only tool.
This is the most overblown criticism of piefed around.
It's a score that is controlled by other people, which causes restrictions if it gets too low.
It's moderation by popularity. I can't and won't support that.
It causes zero restrictions if it gets too low, all that happens is admins see a red ! next to a username.
Why do you tankies always lie
Every account has a Social Credit Score, you concede that.
If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do.
If your Social Credit Score is at -10 you cannot downvote, you can’t create new DMs and It flags your account automatically like this:
PieFed uses a hard coded list to rank an instances' defederation list for its quality. If an instance doesn't defederate from what Rimu decided the instances stated quality goes down. Ironically none of the paedo instances are on Rimu's list.
I think piefed's biggest proponents lie about this because it is one of the more unappealing aspects of piefed, and there isn't really a way to sugarcoat it. Social credit score based on the votes of others is just a shitty way of running a social platform.
Humans as social creatures already have innate fear of social rejection, and Karma/Social Credit systems on platforms that punish rejection just feed that dark pattern even more aggressively. It's really not something I would elect to use after going through Reddit's version of Karma. Especially because Piefed's is ever more conditional (they can blacklist communities from counting towards your score positively but you still lose score points from those communities).
Then make it a clear, public figure. Make it transparent.
Why? It’s an admin tool.
Users overall don't want karma farming accounts.
Because this is Lemmy, the whole point for me at least being decentralized, democratized; making non-privacy based knowledge exclusive to the effective elites goes against that principle to me. Perhaps that's not why you're here, but it does matter to me. It's the same reason I think the Modlog is a vital part of the Lemmy appeal; more transparency with users as community members, not just customers.
There is nothing “democratised” about Lemmy. No where in the software does it support that any more Reddit does. It still relies on admins and mods making decisions.
The only thing on offer is decentralised content aggregation.
And why would you want karma farming accounts? They were the worst part of the reddit experience.
I did not argue for karma, I argued that if karma exists, it should be public. I am at least equally happy with such score not existing for Piefed admins either.