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Why not nuclear?
You can double check it but I think solar is cheaper now. I was shocked as well, I thought nuclear was the cheapest still.
But solar is unreliable. Night day, snow cover, dust cover. It also has to be local and supplemented by other sources
Energy production being local is a benefit.
Just like the fediverse being unaffected by some servers going down. Deliberately or accidentally, doesn't matter, the rest will keep up.
Smaller production is also easier to scale up. You can erect a solar farm in a month or shorter, while a nuclear power plant takes a decade to build.
Batteries.
Batteries plus solar is still cheaper than all other power systems. It's remarkable but true.
Several of my friends live in states with energy provider choice. Buying from the 100% green power providers is more expensive. Natural gas is extremely cheap after all.
Yep, the unreliability is exactly why buying from 100% green energy providers is more expensive than buying from natural gas providers. Batteries are extremely expensive, natural gas is cheap.
Source: Several of my friends live in states with energy provider choice; the green providers cost more.
Why do you think solar has to be local?
Which is why you add storage and wind to the mix. Overproduce energy when it's available and store the leftovers for when you under-produce.
At this point, saying Solar doesn't work at night is kind of like saying cars don't work without wheels. No one is getting solar without storage, just like no one is driving a car without wheels.
Most expensive way of heating water
Russia is doing it and their electricity costs are cheapest on the planet
Yep, France has cheaper energy than Germany. France went nuclear, Germany went solar/wind (and even had to re-online some coal plants due to shortages).
The pushback on nuclear from anti-fossil advocates never ceases to amaze me.
France is heavily subsiding nuclear power.
Without it, it would be the most expensive one.
I am all in for nuclear power, as long as it is waaaaay cheaper than it is right now.
Even buying the uranium is today more expensive than building a solar plant. (compared to resources per power generation)
Additionally, why it is stupid to build new nuclear plants (keep the old ones as long as the maintenance is not too high).
If you now decide you need 1 GW in 10 years Then you can plan your nuclear power plant and start to build it. However as we know it will now take 30 years to build it and costs 10 times as much, while your demand is now 4 GW.
Also what do you do in the meantime? Hope that the power is enough for 10 years?
Nuclear is expensive, not scalable, and takes way too long to build.
It is pretty safe. Especially new reactors. Also the atomic waste should be recycled in different nuclear reactors, which can use it as fuel, but those are still in research.
Isnt Germany's costs are absolutely outrageous? Like the most expensive in Europe
Yeah. A series of fucktarted decisions caused Germany to fuck themselves:
They really, really, really should have kept those nuclear plants like France...
Every German energy problem is entirely down to political self owns
Yeah Germany fucked it really hard.
Going away from nuclear without a good plan b to replace the power was stupid.
We basically replaced nuclear power with wind and solar, but the new power demand that was coming since the turning off of the nuclear plants, was achieved by building gas turbines. So fossil fuels again.
And now our energy minister is a lobbyist from the gas energy sector.....
Because of decades of fear-mongering and under-investment (that gets redirected to fossil).
There was a time when investing deeper into nuclear would have made a lot more sense. That moment has passed, though. The economics are not on the side of nuclear and the numbers are getting worse by the day - nuclear is getting more expensive over time while renewables and batteries are trending in the complete opposite direction.
It's basically impossible to get any nuclear built without heavy subsidization because of how poorly they function economically, not to mention how impossible it is to buy insurance for such a venture. This is not inherently bad, but it does definitely displace other areas we could be subsidizing instead. I would be in favour of this if nuclear didn't have a completely natural replacement in renewables and batteries.
Only in us I think.