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When I say that I don't like how she lounges in her chair as a Starfleet captain, that's not disrespectful, it's just my opinion. Otherwise, the series is okay; it deserves a chance.
That's what a captain does. Captains going on away missions weekly is what's totally unrealistic. But that's the engineered drama.
Oh, really? Which other captains do that? Did Picard or Janeway lounge in their seats like 13-year-old schoolgirls? I don't remember that.
Did Picard or Janeway outlive all their friends family and comrades.
I personally have several issues with the show; but Ake's posture is certainly not one of them -- In fact I kinda like it. She's giving me Guinan or Dr Who vibes portraying an outward silliness that hides an inner sadness and seriousness.
Guinan and Dr Who weren't captains. I don't think anyone would take issue if it were the bartender portraying a laid back vibe, but you kind of want the captain to give the crew confidence that they're alert and on top of things. Of course that's not possible at all times, but that's why the captain has quarters and a ready room. Some other officer should be sitting the the chair keeping an ey on things if the captain wants to read a book or whatever.
It breaks immersion to have characters that are supposed to be ding serious jobs acting like teenagers.
I don't see it as acting "like a teenager". These eccentricities seem more to me as being representative of a person who knows all the rules (both formal and informal), and has decided which ones are worth breaking -- whether it's for personal comfort or if it's for a more purposeful reason, that I can't say.
Complaints about her demeanor remind me of people who complain about nurses with tattoos or dyed hair for being "unprofessional". They clearly have the resume and skills for the role.
That's a perfect description of how a teenager thinks.
An adult thinks about responsibility and the effect their behaviour has on others. A captain of a ship is responsible for the lives of everyone aboard their ship. The crew of a ship takes cues from the captain. If the captain is acting like a lazy teenager, the crew is likely to follow her lead. They start blowing off some of their duties because the captain doesn't give a shit, so why should we?
Have you ever been an airplane? Why do they even bother wearing uniforms? You could perform the job functions of piloting an aircraft wearing a T-shirt and shorts. IT would be a lot more comfortable, so why do they wear uniforms? They wear uniforms and behave professionally because people tend to get nervous when people in positions of responsibility look like they don't give a shit. And adults understand how they appear affect others around them, so they make an effort to look and behave professionally for the sake of other people. A selfish teenager doesn't think this way and thinks they should feel comfortable and everyone else should change how they think.
Bottom line, she's behaving in a way that teenagers might relate to, but she's not behaving the way someone that's responsible for people's lives would behave. A captain may need to give an order and have it followed without hesitation would want the people under her command to think of her as a serious person. Not a teenager that bends the rules for the sake of her own comfort.
So yeah... it breaks immersion to have a captain acting like a teenager. It's just an actor that didn't bother to think about how captains in real life behave thinking it's cute to be sitting in the captain's chair like a teenager would. Not believable as a captain responsible for people's lives.
I chill in chairs like that all the time. It’s comfy. Don’t be so self conscious you let schoolgirls have all the fun.
Sure, but you're not a Starfleet captain. It just doesn't work for me for that role. That's all.
If she does that in her quarters, great. But it just looks unprofessional to me in the captain's chair.
That's what I love, though. A boss today might feel the need to cultivate a "professional" work environment to maintain discipline among their underlings, or to appear trustworthy to their clients.
Ake doesn't doesn't need to worry about discipline among her officers. They aren't working for a paycheck, they're there because they feel a calling and a duty to be there. She trusts them implicitly, and is confident enough in having their respect that she can enjoy her time on her bridge. And her "clients" are university age kids, who generally don't respond to the pomposity of performative professionalism.
Damn, what has you so aggressive here? The other comment wasn't venomous. Hell, it wasn't even a little snarky.
Something going on you want/need to vent about? Legit asking, I've had days where I got shitty to people that weren't doing anything, and having a quick vent would have helped.
Lol. Aggressive, huh?
Sisko sure did....
It was a long warp, she needed a book to keep her mind busy. I'd hate to have a boring dumb captain who just sits there all warp.
Isn't that what the ready room is for? Captain chills out reads a book or whatever in a room next to the bridge, but they are ready to go out to the bridge and conduct themself formally when they get out there.
Good point. Picard needed a whole ass room to read his books. Chancellor Ake is ready for battle in two seconds flat.