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Fuck your false dichotomy bullshit.
You can treat the symptoms while working to cure the cause. The two are not mutually exclusive. Each has merit and doing both simultaneously has compounding benefits.
And to you, "treating the symptoms" is beating and murdering people who disagree with you?
Specifically those who disagree with my right to live. If you disagree on any other front, there's no reason for violence.
How are they disagreeing with your right to live?
Why do you think this is what they believe?
The more specifics you can use, the better.
Ex: Instead of saying "Literally by holding the opinion that people like myself shouldn’t exist," can you tell me what that opinion actually is? I'm not even sure what you mean by "people like yourself."
I don't know how much clearer that can be. Their opinion is that I shouldn't exist. Or that I should die. Or that we should move towards a world where people like me don't exist.
I don't see what my identity has to do with this. Whether I'm a cis-het white male or bipoc gay trans, those opinions are equally problematic.
Right here. This is where you can make it clearer. What is making you think that is their opinion? And just to clarify, by 'exist' do you mean they want you dead, or just out of sight?
When you say "people like yourself," how is anyone supposed to know what you're talking about?
You generally learn of people's opinions when they tell you their opinions. Not that this is relevant in this discussion. The point is that targeting people who hold such opinions is what it means to "treat the symptoms" in this context. Figuring out who holds such opinions is a different matter.
How is my exact identity relevant? Do you think it's more acceptable to get rid of one group of people versus another? As long as they don't infringe on other people's right to live, everyone should have an equal right to live their life.
Man, it's really crazy watching the mental gymnastics you're willing to play just to avoid giving a direct answer.
You must not be too confident in your stance if you have to beat around the bush like this whenever you're asked to give details.
I'm speaking in generalities because it's a very general stance.
What you're doing is the equivalent of going to someone who says
x+x=2xand and claiming they must not know what they're saying because they're not telling you what exact valuexis."They want people like me to not exist" is not a "general stance." You're talking specifically about "people like you," which you've still yet to specify what that means. Do you mean lemmyers? People with usernames that start with H? I don't know anything about you, so giving an answer like that is meaningless without further context.
You also chose to make this about you, then say "I'm not giving personal information" when you could've just been specific about the set of people you're referring to. I feel like you're avoiding specifics because you know it will weaken your argument.
Don't pretend that because you're trying to conflate this with math that you're somehow correct or logical.
I see you're incapable of giving a direct answer though, so I'm going to stop wasting my time.
Good luck.
Have you not noticed the people getting shot in the fucking street?
Yes? People get shot and killed all the time for all sorts of different reasons.
What are you trying to argue? You can be direct about it instead of trying to play leapfrog with yourself.
Congrats, you play stupid real fucking stupid, stupid.
Fuck off, I see what you’re doing. I’m done interacting with this high school debate idiocy.
Ok, just making sure you couldn't directly articulate why you think they want "people like you" to die. Maybe next time don't make the claim if you're going to run away the moment it's scrutinized.
You wouldn't survive on a high school debate team.
Oh fuck of with that disingenuous "people who disagree with you" bullshit.
You're clearly here in bad faith.
Fuck off, fascist sympathizer.
You're clearly too far gone.
I hope you get the help you need.
Hope you meet the fate those like you deserve.
I know you're angry, but this isn't the way.
Eat shit and die, fascist sympathizer. Fuck your performative politeness.
I rest my case.
Good luck out there.
"I have annoyed this person with performative politeness and bad faith arguing in support of those who espouse inherently violent rhetoric to the point they told me to fuck off, repeatedly. Now I get to act smug because they don't maintain an arbitrary decorum."
Gods you're a fucking child.
Don't argue with people John Brown would have shot.
You're just talking with yourself at this point.
If you don't think you need help, then that's why you need help.
I'm genuinely concerned for your well-being, because this isn't healthy.
You lie through your teeth. Fuck your fake concern. Go bite pavement.
Ok.