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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Big difference in real life and lab based prisoners dilemma and I'm sure there's a billion nuances, although most research is done in the lab. I've tried it a few ways, even lowering the stakes to choosing to do dishes or hoping your roommate does it and if no one does it you end up working twice as hard scrubbing, lol.

Interestingly, your last point is disputed in the literature... but not how you'd expect. Historically, research shows women more likely to comply due to societal reasons, but not when someone they know or care about is targeted. They're more likely to choose competitive options on behalf of others, at least according to research. I don't remember the studies themselves, though I could refer you to my courses OER textbook.

Here's a slightly off topic fun fact for you, though. In replications of Milgrim's shock experiments on obedience, women are much less likely to conform when hurting someone. Typically the OG found it to be upwards to 75% conformity, but the least confirming group? Australian women at 16%. These are the women you want when fighting fascism, lol.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

I wonder what society has the smallest difference between men and women. We'll have achieved true gender equality when women are just as willing to torture someone as men.

That also makes me wonder about game theory thought experiments. The prisoner's dilemma is really just a sort of logic puzzle. Original (male) researchers gave it the name "prisoner's dilemma" because that was a situation where they could imagine people choosing "cooperate" or "compete" or whatever. It makes me wonder what the dilemma would be called if the original researchers had been female. Maybe there is a relatable situation for women where there's a realistic "cooperate" / "compete" table you could make. Maybe a situation where your best outfit is one your friend also has, and you don't both want to wear the same thing, so do you risk showing up in the same outfit, or wear something slightly less fashionable to avoid that situation?