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Meanwhile On Grad
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db0 was my home instance for over a year. I had all the genAI stuff blocked and hardly interacted with the home instance. I popped over to quokk.au a couple weeks ago to check out PieFed. I saw the discussion post for this de-federation and honestly felt disgusted. A day or so later I started seeing c/[Country]AIPAC or similar bullshit communities popping up. I'm anti-Zionist but the rabidness was a major red flag. Quokka might not be it either, yet, but the vibe over at db0 has grown toxic.
yeah, it's really strange
Two years ago, you couldn't defend Hamas. Now you get banned if you call them terrorists.
Yeah, I scrolled through the modlogs after seeing the de-fed post and realized how far the instance had strayed from their original message. Seeing half a dozen new communities pop up concerning AIPAC funding was just weird.
Also, the "Anarchist Flotilla" seemed kinda...lame? Not necessarily the concept; a novel method of organizing around a new structure like federated social media makes sense. Implementation, however...inventing a new 'tier of membership' for quokk.au seemed odd. I dunno, maybe I just haven't 'read enough theory.'
i honestly have no clue what the anarchist flotilla is. just seems like an alternative dbzer0?
Anarchist.nexus is more or less the PieFed equivalent of db0 to my understanding. The flotilla concept was one of 'shared governance' and anarchist solidarity or something. Quokk.au was in discussions to join but wanted to maintain it's own de-fed list; IIRC Hexbear was the point of contention. An agreement was reached that admitted Quokk with certain caveats that just sounded like a hierarchy with extra steps.
I've had hexbear (and ml, and grad I think) blocked since early days and upon discovering db0 was not only federated with them but willing to gatekeep to remain so I jumped ship. I'm no anarchist nor particularly well-versed in their theory but I thought the whole point was to dismantle hierarchies? The "new membership tier" or whatever just reeked of incongruence and disingenuousness. Frankly its late and I find myself violently disinterested such that I'm unwilling to refresh my memory.
Tl;Dr c ya nerds