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[–] CafeFrog@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I've had very consistant issues with messages not decrypting on Matrix with Megolm, and it's known for leaking a lot of metadata. I'm also not a fan of the Matrix foundation heavily courting law enforcement and getting funded by Israel. I know it's open-source, but combined with the problems I've faced using, the fact that the self-hosting side mostly targets enterprise use, and the heavy resource usage of Matrix when self-hosting, I personally think XMPP is the better option currently.

OMEMO is structured similarly to Signal's encryption. It probably doesn't scale up super well to like, 10,000+ users, but OMEMO can be turned off for super large channels where encryption might not be needed, and turned on for smaller groups where privacy is desired or between friends.

[–] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

the Matrix foundation heavily courting law enforcement and getting funded by Israel

Try taking your head out of your arse for five seconds and bring minimal evidence when you make accusations like that lol

It probably doesn’t scale up super well to like, 10,000+ users

So you're confirming my point, you could have refrained from making a fool of yourself

[–] CafeFrog@lemmy.cafe 0 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

Not sure why you're responding with that amount of hostility, I don't feel I did anything to warrant it?

Matrix's creation and development for the first 3 years was funded by Amdocs, as evidenced on the Matrix.org website itself:

How is Matrix[.]org funded? For the first three years of Matrix's development (2014-2017), most of the core contributors worked for Amdocs, who paid for them to work fulltime on Matrix. In July 2017, Amdocs considered the project to be sufficiently successful that it could now self-support and so stopped funding. The majority of the core team is now employed by Element, an independent company set up to hire the team and support Matrix's development. Other contributors are funded by their own employers or donate their own time to the project.

Amdocs is a telecom company that was founded in Israel, and later went on to run much of the US's telecom infrastructure. It has long been suspected to be involved in espionage for the Israeli government.

One of their revenue streams is providing their services to law enforcement, as they admit to here, which I'm not particularly comfortable with, personally.

So you’re confirming my point

When I say 10,000+, I mean it may not scale to encrypting that amount of people in a single room, not that the service itself cannot scale beyond that. Due to its distributed nature, it can avoid being bogged down by having many thousands of users, but if 10,000 people all tried to go into a single encrypted room where all those messages would have to be sent all at once, that room would, I assume, bog down. That's an insanely unlikely situation to ever occur, as any public server that could grow to that size would not have encryption turned on anyway (and Discord itself, the thing we're trying to replace, doesn't have any encryption at all).