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"I am going to punch you" - Proud of this kid! Nothing more American than punching Nazis! True patriot! (i.imgur.com)

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is historically inaccurate. Historically successful revolutions usually take a multilateral approach using multiple groups and approaches including taking up arms and meeting violence with violence. A good example of this would be South African liberation from apartheid

[–] despite_velasquez@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

That's so historically inaccurate I'm amazed it's got so many upvotes. Let's go through the SA case:

the ANC's armed wing insignificant and largely ineffective throughout the struggle (Mandela himself acknowledged this, and that the MK was largely symbolic).
MK sabotage campaigns never posed a genuine military threat to the apartheid state
By the 1980s, most MK leadership was in exile, imprisoned, or neutralized

Apartheid was successfully brought down in SA mostly because of huge international economic sanctions and divestment, mass civil disobedience and labour strikes (read about the United Democratic Front's campaigns), and the moral delegitimisafiom of apartheid through Non-violent resistance.

Same with the US: people love to point at the Black Panthers, but they were systematically destroyed or marginalized (so ineffective besides vibes). The Civil Rights Movement succeeded precisely because it maintained non-violence even when met with brutal repression.

I maintain that anyone that encourages violence, especially online these days must be a glowie. Want to be radical and revolutionary? Stop paying your taxes lmao.