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[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

And it’s orders of magnitude less efficient than just using that land for solar panels.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

but can I light the solar panels on fire?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

do you want to?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

IIRC solar panels produce about 100x as much energy for the same area than biodiesel.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think we all saw the same video from the Christmas lights activist

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] windpunch@feddit.org 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

oh that yeah of course i saw it :D

but that's not why i said it. I did my own calculations here:

Biodiesel takes much more area because the efficiency is much lower because plants metabolism isn't so efficient, like iirc sth like 0.3% of sunlight energy end up in the fruits of the plants, compared to 20% efficiency for solar panels.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Is it me or does it look genuinely possible when most rooftop space is not being actively used?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

i'm personally also against rooftop solar, partially for aesthetic reasons but more importantly for financial reasons:

flat-area solar parks are significantly cheaper than rooftop solar (source 1, source 2), and they also don't require a lot of land area (see comments above).

"utility scale" and "PV frei" means flat-area ground-based solar parks, while "PV klein" and "PV groß" mean rooftop solar (small/big). "Stromgestehungskosten" means levelized cost of energy.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Someone best me to it lol