Flippanarchy
Flippant Anarchism. A lighter take on social criticism with the aim of agitation.
Post humorous takes on capitalism and the states which prop it up. Memes, shitposting, screenshots of humorous good takes, discussions making fun of some reactionary online, it all works.
This community is anarchist-flavored. Reactionary takes won't be tolerated.
Don't take yourselves too seriously. Serious posts go to !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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No shaming people for being anti-electoralism. This should be obvious from the above point but apparently we need to make it obvious to the turbolibs who can't control themselves. You have the rest of lemmy to moralize.
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Liberals have no answers for the current political crisis. And instead of caving to that reality and showing some humility, they'll try to rally the troops to "VoTe BlUe nO MaTtEr wHo" as if the Democratic party signifies all good with politics, while Republicans signify all bad.
A lot of these people don't have the political science education or distrust in the current party to be able to see the Democratic party for what it is: controlled opposition.
Why do liberals think Bernie Sanders and AOC are leaders in the party that draw so much attention? It's not because of some focus group. It's because of the anti-rich world view both candidates hold.
Per usual, a Leftist means being right too soon.
We should as a last resort.
The meme has a point. As leftist we haven't done much to primary dems, nor to make a separate party. This leaves us having to pick for the lest bad option.
Its a big unforced error to ignore elections.
In fairness, the party opposes primary challengers from the left (and only the left. They didn't protect Cori Bush or Jamaal Bowman like they protected Henry Cuellar) much harder than they have ever opposed fascism.
True, but that doesn't mean we should roll over because there is opposition. We should keep trying to primary. And we should build out as much of an independent party as we can.
It is our movement. We are the ones building it. And we should have done more of this decades ago.
It also doesn't mean there's been a lack of trying.
Sure, but our modern fellow lefties do discourage trying.
For example in this thread @AntiBullyRanger@ani.social was asking why we no longer have a black panther party all while telling me all the reasons why they are not interested in showing up to vote.
Engaging in elections is still one way we can engage in the public space and start to make some changes in a favorable direction. We can't keep wondering why electoralism is not in our favor if we are also not even trying.
Like i said in the other side of the thread; if you can get your supporters to show up and vote you have credibility to mobilize for other things.
Never said to ignore elections. Stop with this strawman ultra Leftist bullshit
Lot of our fellow lefties on lemmy do. Stick around and you will see the "you think you can vote your way out".
I wouldn't say elections will solve everything, but we keep neglecting it as a form of organization to our own detriment.
When are Dems&Reps going to stop killing us?
You may have missed some information here.
Btw, @Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com this is a case in point of what I was referring to. @AntiBullyRanger@ani.social is in one of the lefties that is saying we should ignore voting. They are not wrong that the dems don't represent us, but they are also not willing to show up to primaries to move them as left as possible, nor will they likely be interested in splitting. I'd like to be wrong, but it is all to common on lemmy.
Which means the meme will hold and we will still be left with no influence for another election cycle. Its a massive unforced error to ignore elections. They are not the end all be all, but they will add credibility to our movement. Being able to get millions of followers to show up one day to tick some lines on a paper means you are also able to get them to organize in other ways too. We only hurt our own credibility and presence in peoples minds. As our own party or subsection of the dems (like the tea party of sorts) it does not matter; tho it would be nice to be our own faction.
These ultra Leftists will cry for communism but haven't done shit to build it from the ground up. They will criticize Progressives and Dem Socs for organizing while they themselves remain as keyboard warriors.
I think Lenin made it very clear that we are to operate within the existing societal systems before any revolution is had. That means voting. And as you point out, that also means primary-ing bad Democrats.
So, you want to bomb us again?
How many more McCarthyism do you need to comprehend your electors are bought and paid for?
Bro if you can't be bothered to vote I have no confidence you will show up to back me up with a rifle.
Wait, you legit believe popular votes actually elect presidents‽
I don't even want riffles when you have comrades suffering in deathcamps.
Are you going to join me in demolishing one?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but are you saying your position is “don’t vote don’t resist”? Because that’s what this sounds like.
I think @AntiBullyRanger@ani.social is genuine in wanting resistance, but is failing to see that in practice it will mean no resistance. I never said electoralism is all we need. I am saying that it is a form of organizing and one that bring credibility to our movement. It shows numbers and willingness to act in a way that is political and explicit in its goals.
How do you organize in a system meant to disorganize⸮
I think you're unwilling to directly organize outside of the systems that oppress us. You keep adamantly avoiding my questions, as if I do not see how 🇺🇲 has historically genocided Leftists. Our goals have been explicit from the start, yet, how did you treat us?
Again, what are the Leftist party in 🇺🇲 I can “vote for”?
None as we have neglected to form one.
Now, you are denying history. And my direct affiliation which we formed.
Any more electoralist sentiments you want you say?
You have literally asked why we don't have a party and you have spent the thread telling me you wouldn't vote for it. Can't have a movement if people no show for it. Part of how you organize is elections. Anyway its getting tedious to repeat the point I am making, so unless you have something real to add this is going to be the last reply.
It's pointless trying to converse with these types of people, man. They're just the left version of "maga" with purity tests, and refusing to be a part of a System that requires engagement to change.
You strawmanned this all on your own bub.
No bub, you organize by intersecting, solidarity, and helping the ailing. Elections is how you got Donald Trump elected twice, firstly unpopular. Since you are historically illiterate, I feel I won't be aided in defortifying deathcamps with you right this moment, so good luck on your suicide this midterms.
some of us can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time
So, you're unstrawmanning your strawman, or are you really going to demolish deathcamps and compost nazis at the same time?
That question has already been answered early on.
Then prepare your will.
I got addendum my manifesto.
Read my profile for awhile.
I am saying something far more clear InternetCitizen2 is unwilling to commit.
You may think you are, but your weird anchor text advert style of writing is quite confusing and honestly a little infuriating.
It doesn’t even seem to be related to what’s being talked about, which kinda makes me wonder what the point is.
Yeah, this person seems to be whataboutism personified.
Very simple dear, refresh my responses to IC2: the electoralist is perfectly aware 🇺🇲 is about to implement Reichstagsbrandverordnung in order to genocide all political opponents this 🇺🇲midterms.
Instead of actually doing direct acts against the rise of Nazism in🇺🇲, IC2 is preferring to coalesce the Deutschnationale Volkspartei coalition.
I see the Nazi praxis being reformed, instead of the antifascist acts.
Doesn't matter. It is a form of organizing. And if you have the popular vote it is also obvious and the momentum is there to force a change by popular uprising.
I am questioning your commitment to organizing to take one down. Can't even get you to show up to a lower stakes polling place, but you are going to lay siege to a fortified camp? Sure bud.
pfffffpft Ok electoralist, where is your “uprise”? Where’s 🇺🇲 antifa alliance?
Demolished, by your own administration.
All you had to say you're preparing my coffin.
So you're purposely confusing Guantanamo for barewired fences? Which of these deathcamps I linked had fortifications again? Remind me “bro bud”