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I kind of consider that to be plausible. 330 gallons sounds like a lot but it's only 6 barrels and there's way more effective ways to get rid of bodies (which I think is the implication). Also, justice isn't being achieved, not because of lack of evidence here, but because disgusting crimes are being covered up, and disgusting people being protected. I'm ok focusing on "why aren't any men in jail for this right now?"
What's funny is the UK? wants someone to step down cause they hired someone on the list. They fired him a year ago but they still want him to step down. Well US is like whatever. Who cares.
I've been boggled by American inaction in this and I wonder if it's because there's no recall function in our system? Maybe folks are just waiting for the midterms, but we aren't seeing civil consequences (firings, boycotts, etc) either. It genuinely seems like there's something uniquely American about the lack of consequences here
I mean it's pretty clear why: Trump's name appeared more than a million times in the unredacted Epstein files according to Rep. Jamie Raskin
The highest office in the country benefits from the inaction.
I know it's not really the same thing in the UK, but even within the royal family and public opinion, if it had been Charles instead of Andrew, do you think he would willingly be giving up his royal title and everything that goes with it, even if other members of the family were pressuring him?
Definitely, but there should be systems in place like impeachment, no confidence votes, etc. in the US, Congress can impeach a president and remove them, but if they don't do so, we-the-people don't have legal recourse for removing members of Congress in the middle of their terms. A lot of the advice angry Americans are getting right now is "just vote them out in the midterms". This feels woefully insufficient
Also you’d buy in bulk because the cost of delivery is probably the same.
We wouldnt have to speculate if the DOJ would do their job in a way that allows the population to trust them. We dont get that though, so we have to be the justice ourselves to a degree by demanding total transparency and that also means questioning to ensure information comes out if its there. Thats my take.
People are being left to fill in the gaps and that causes mass confusion and makes people question real evidence. Its not okay
That is probably the point
I don't disagree at all. The process we're forced to go through because we seem to be the only ones that care is maddening
Its so depressing, honestly and its purposeful. They want confusion. The American government is pretty damn good at Gaslighting and confusing the public, honestly... It wouldnt be the first time... and I have never been one of those tinfoil hat types. You can even go back and think about the Tuskegee experiment, MKUltra ect... among others... Its messed up how much they view us as manipulatable pawns... and this isnt to say other Governments dont engage in similar crap, too but ours is pretty dang experienced in the art of deception now.
P.S. MK Ultra feels cheesy to bring up at all due to the stigma but it happened and its messed up but its an example of purposeful manipulation.
I think their job is to cover it up and they're doing it well.
Didn’t all of this start with the ideological principle that a government by the people would inherently serve the people? So the groups of interest don’t diverge between public and government, in theory.
The FBI, CIA, NSA, … have been obvious contradictions to that claim well before Trump. I mean… shit, for starters, everyone knows about the CIA testing their truth serum on American coffee shop customers.
Seems that, for a while now, the reality has been more like that of two separate interest groups: government and public. Where did things start to diverge from the original intent?
I understand that governments are sometimes faced with need to act against public interest for the sake of public interest. For example, keeping the development of the atomic bomb a secret was vital to American goals at the time — despite the fact that many Americans would have probably preferred to have a much deeper discussion on the matter. Whether or not secrecy was the right call, it’s clear that not having it kept secret risked millions more American lives in a war… hence the conflict.
But that doesn’t seem to be the distinction here. For decades, the US government has been allowed to act in the interest of the government. Better surveillance, more lobbying and dark money, using economic and military influence to deter successful socialism in foreign states, the constant propaganda (especially regarding communism), … these are the behaviors of self-preservation, particularly for the government. How’d that start?
The volume is a tote, aka an IBC container
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_bulk_container
Super common and readily available for both legitimate and/or illegal purposes.
Didn't realize there were tall ibc totes, I thought they were all 1000L/265gal
Which is ~3.5 foot-bathtubs or 7 MFM...Mega-Foot-Mugs or 35panda-feet or 35 pizza ft ~65watermelons per apple feet. I asked Mr Chat for these actual units, so likely to be all wrong. Things were looking credible until pizza ft. Darn!
Yea seems a lot easier to just take a body out to sea and drop it. They won't even know where it ends up between the depth and the currents. I doubt a body would even last that long on the sea bed.
Yeah, but you would need some kinda trap door that leads directly to the ocean for that in your own house.
Or, you know, a boat.
I never said the body had to be in one piece. For all we know Jeffrey could have been an avid fisherman.
Or really small, like child size.
I think it'd be a shit way to get rid of bodies unless maybe if it was just bones. Fat and soft tissue would probably need a strong base like sodium hydroxide to break down - which is why it's used for making soap
Nitric acid would be better. But apparently sulfuric acid and highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide works well. Look up piranha solution.
But on an island, I would think a large barrel, concrete, and some very deep water would be sufficient.
i was going to say, just get some aqua regia. unfortunately i fat fingered my google and accidentally searched for acid that dissolves god and i don't think lysergic acid is great for cleaning up evidence
If there was a massive order for hydrogen peroxide I'd believe piranha solution was used for these purposes
trace DNA evidences?
I don't even think trace DNA would survive pirahna
I wonder how much dna would be left after a lye then acid bath
The plausibly only makes it well hidden, if it wasn't used for that.