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Inspired by this post about Vampire The Masquerade

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[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They lost me at the last point tbh. I don't blame anyone for not knowing and you shouldn't blame me for not learning about something that hasn't affected me.

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's your responsibility to learn, not their responsibility to teach.

[–] Fjdybank@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's not their responsibility to teach but it's also not my responsibility to keep abreast of all social developments. It's inappropriate to gatekeep due to someone's naive ignorance.

Picture this. Sitting at a table game and someone drops a term or phrase that I don't recognise. Am I going to run to the toilet and google that term? Or am I just gonna say 'yo, what's that mean?"

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago

Hmm, yeah.

This shit that you're doing, right here? Nobody wants to deal with that.

[–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

also, found this from a tumblr post

My problem with “it’s not my job to educate you!” is that if you’re an activist then yes, it is your job, that’s part of what activism is. If you call yourself an activist but in the next breath refuse to offer education to those who are able to listen, your activism is performative/disingenuous at best and actively harmful at worst. Telling people to “google it” it not helpful when google has become increasingly unusable and bogged down with advertisements and unusable results - not to mention, not everyone can be expected to tell the difference between accurate sources and, say, dogwhistle-y propaganda messages, especially if they are new to leftism. You could be doing more to push them towards the right than to help them understand leftism, all because of “purity politics” or clique behaviors or superiority complexes or whatever it is that’s causing all these people to behave this way.

[–] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Not everyone is an activist though. And even those that are, they need down time sometimes. I get it's tough for those on the spectrum to understand, but in this context, let people at the table just play the fucking game.

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Yeah I'm not reading all that. Google it.

[–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

We're talking about a fucking game, not an undergraduate ethics class.

[–] King_Bob_IV@startrek.website 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I believe what they are referring to is that it's not any individuals responsibility to ensure that any other individuals knowledge of their marginalization is complete. That's not saying that individuals can't do it, nor that they shouldn't call attention to specific issues as effect them at that time. It's saying that they are not responsible to do the work of teaching someone that which they should learn themselves once the issue has been raised. To do otherwise often feels like the person has to justify their existence and struggles to anyone who asks. That's an unreasonable load for the marginalized person to carry.

So not blame, just where the burthen of learning falls once an issue comes up.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I wholly don't understand it. If one brings up an issue it kind of is up to the person to explain why it is an issue, no? I'd just tell ya I'm part of a marginalised group? Like, I'm the US version of "white", rich enough to afford a vacation a year and a house, cishet. My marginalization is not brought up on those bullet points so you'd have to go digging down my comments to find it. Like, how often do these issues get brought up?

Like, the person exists allright if they're in front of me but if they have an active problem they do have to make a case among the group, as otherwise it seems very easily weaponized.

As for the reason I'm a marginalised group, I got falsely accused of raping someone and that wholly destroyed my social life. I hope you have an understanding of why I'm very weary of these kind of systems.

[–] King_Bob_IV@startrek.website 8 points 1 day ago

What this is talking about would be if I were to now ask you questions about your marginalization and demanded answers. But since that is not relevant to our discussion here and because it's not your job to ensure that I am informed on any issues relating to your marginalization I wouldn't ask the questions in the first place. You shouldn't have to feel like you have to justify your existence to anybody who possess by and is curious.

People sometimes treat visible members of marginalized groups like they are information dispensers. That just because they are viable they are responsible for entertaining their curiousity. In specific instances where it's relevant and invited a discussion of their marginalization is fine. But it's is not the job of someone to ensure any person interested is told about whatever they want to ask.