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[Video] Hasan Piker says he will vote 3rd party if the Democrats run an establishment candidate in 2028 (files.catbox.moe)

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's a trait of liberal politics in the States, I guess.

Republicans and Republican voters gravitate towards "loyalty" to popular leaders. We could dissect that all day (especially the ties to U.S. Christianity and the media environment), but that's just how its been; Trump only made it more apparent. He's basically Jesus now.

Democrats and Democrat voters, on the other hand, seem to fracture, dump their leaders, and cling to more personal ideologies at the drop of a hat. Everyone fails each other's political purity tests and becomes the enemy. Hence when this inevitably comes up, Democrafts can't actually get any unity around reform, and the corpo money wins.

In a healthier system, I'd argue this is a good thing (as worshipping idols is problematic), but its a huge political disadvantage right now.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 7 points 2 days ago

I disagree. Not about the party loyalty to republicans but to the idea that people drop leaders for some perceived purity test.
I think it is a useful myth that excuses the behavior without looking into it more.

People want leaders that support and help them the individual. We are focusing on social ideology instead of financial which is the primary driving factor for Republican voters too. They are just more communal and expect members of their perceived community to be helpful to them and are taught to leave it to a higher power to solve.

Anyways, the Democratic party is not picking policy that is big tent. They are picking stuff that is hyper specific sub groups based on cultural aspects and invites awareness of whether you are in or not. It makes it appear fractured cause we are rallied as sub cultures under a fiscal conservative umbrella. If the policies were pushed as supporting the financially underserved it would be easier to recognize yourself as belonging but it would impact the financial support of billionaires which the party actually courts.

It appears we can't win cause we are trying to play the same policies the republicans do under a guise of social structures need to be fixed instead of financial ones. Push for policies that are big tent and makes it easy to the average person to see them belonging in (poor) and thr support will come but the policies will need to change to. So which comes first?
It needs to be politicians cause no one will trust to elect the other way around.